Trpltrbl Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Which one do you prefer ? I Love the minisplinters myself, with 3 Cl as an use all bid, either some sort of Bergen Raise or a Cl mini splinter. Anybody has some ideas, to fit in 2 /1 system? Thx Mike ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 ROMEX MAJOR SUIT RAISES. ROMEX MAJOR SUIT RAISES. ROMEX MAJOR SUIT RAISES. ROMEX MAJOR SUIT RAISES. You get the mini-splinter, the G/F trump raise, the limit raise with and without shortness, and your pick-a-game. So much better than Bergen, which with discussion is easily defensed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted December 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Got some info about the ROMEX major suit raise?I think I played them when I was about 15 years old but that was 20 years ago hehe, my memory not so good ;) Thx Mike ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 ROMEX MAJOR SUIT RAISES. ROMEX MAJOR SUIT RAISES. ROMEX MAJOR SUIT RAISES. ROMEX MAJOR SUIT RAISES. You get the mini-splinter, the G/F trump raise, the limit raise with and without shortness, and your pick-a-game. So much better than Bergen, which with discussion is easily defensed. Can you explain please? Or give a link? TIA Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Which one do you prefer ? I Love the minisplinters myself, with 3 Cl as an use all bid, either some sort of Bergen Raise or a Cl mini splinter. Anybody has some ideas, to fit in 2 /1 system? Thx Mike ;D I use mini-splinters and a wide-range 'balanced' raise. 1H 2S and 1S 2NT show the 'balanced' raise. 1H 2NT and all jumps in a suit are mini-splinters. Over the balanced raises we show singletons or ask for range and controls. Over the splinters we show range and controls - we discount the king of the short suit. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 Romex Raises (from the newer writings in the Godffrey's series): 1M opening: one step above 2M (1H-2S and 1H-3C) = mini-splinter, single raise, 4 trumps two steps above 2M (1H-2NT and 1S-3C) = G/F raise, 4 trumps, mild slam interest (for the record, KLP's structure is an adaptation of Martel-Stansby's 2NT raise) three steps above 2M (1H-3C and 1S-3D) = single raise, four trumps, but NO shortage four steps above 2M, one step below 3M (1H-3D and 1S-3H) = limit raise, four trumps, NO shortage 3M directly = preemptive 1M-3NT = 3 trumps, pick a game 1H-3S and 4C/D with 1S-4C/D/H = splinters, game going only 4M directly = preemptive (can be flat hand with game only, depends on partnership) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted December 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 thx Wayne ;D but were does the maxi splinter go ?In the 2 steps above ? I guess it does, since other options don't seem rite. And with the mini splinter after y open 1 Sp and pd bids 3 Cl showing a minisplinter, y r already at 4 level if pd had singl Cl.1 Sp-3Cl-3D ( relay)-3H= singl H 3Sp= Singl D 4Cl= singl Cl Unless I am missing something, I have to go digging in my Garazzo notes. Thx Mike ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishovnbg Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 Hi Mike! I used to play ROMEX several years (but 15 years ago). ROMEX raises worked well. BUT! New bidding theory used by top "scientist" pairs in the world is now days different. Primary goal is to not give additional info to opponents if no need. Like in new polish standard WJ2000 only 1 raise 2NT limit or better. Rumen-Kalin pair go further and play 2NT as ONLY limit raise, while other hands pass trought relay or splinter. Misho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 thx Wayne ;D but were does the maxi splinter go ?In the 2 steps above ? I guess it does, since other options don't seem rite. And with the mini splinter after y open 1 Sp and pd bids 3 Cl showing a minisplinter, y r already at 4 level if pd had singl Cl.1 Sp-3Cl-3D ( relay)-3H= singl H 3Sp= Singl D 4Cl= singl Cl Unless I am missing something, I have to go digging in my Garazzo notes. Thx Mike ;D 1S 3C1S 3D1S 3H are all splinters as are 1H 2NT short spades1H 3C1H 3D Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted December 21, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 Thx Wayne, that's how I play it 1 H -2 Sp is minisplinter with me, whereas 2 NT after major suit opening is 4 Card Limit or better. ;D I enjoy playing it like that. Thx Mike ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 Which one do you prefer ? I Love the minisplinters myself, with 3 Cl as an use all bid, either some sort of Bergen Raise or a Cl mini splinter. Anybody has some ideas, to fit in 2 /1 system? Thx Mike ;D Neither. I use the simple jumpshifts as "fit jumps" and are not game forcing (with one of these suits and game force, I just bid 2/1 or 1S over 1H). Double jumpshifts are splinters of course instead of game-forcing fit jumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted December 21, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 I still play double jumpshifts as regular Splinters, and triple Jumpshifts as Exclusion RKC. I am actually trying to find a place for the 15+ Splinter. Maybe I shud just make my minisplinter as a 2 way Splinter, either 6-9 or 15 +. Any ideas out there ? Thx Mike ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted December 21, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 And as long as we are on the subject. How do we feel about Bergen/ minisplinters after opps TO double and overcall ? Personally I love it, since the pressure it puts on the opps, and the info pd gets and all that with the price of 1 bid :) Can't wait for reactions on this ;D Thx Mike ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 I still play double jumpshifts as regular Splinters, and triple Jumpshifts as Exclusion RKC. I am actually trying to find a place for the 15+ Splinter. Maybe I shud just make my minisplinter as a 2 way Splinter, either 6-9 or 15 +. Any ideas out there ? Thx Mike ;D We play double jumps as (most often) weak 5/5 hands with 5-card support this allows partner to compete sensibly if the opponents bid their game. We also allow very strong 5/5 hands after which we use 6-Ace Blackwood. Our triple jumps are also exclusion rkc - an excellent convention. Mini-splinters are contiguous range 8+. Our structure is: 1S 3C3D = relay for range and discounted controls3H = stiff (hands with both players having a singleton are very powerful)3S = crap attempted sign-off3NT = stiff diamond...4S = accepting the game try minimum and 0-3 controls Over interference we continue the relays PODI style below 3 Maj.That is Pass is the relay and Double shows a singleton in the bid suit etc At or above 3 Maj we us double to show extras. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted December 21, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 Just to make sure I get this rite. 1 SP- 3 CL = 5 Clubs + 5 Spades ? That doesn't seem like a hand that happens very often ? Or maybe I am seeying this wrong :) that has happened on occasion ;D Thx Mike ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted December 22, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 But if I knew how to type I ment 1 SP- 4 CL, but still it takes up a lot of room, and I am missing out on my Regular splinterbid. If I am 5-5 in Sp and Cl then I also have shortness somewhere. Depends on style but I prefer to show my shortness and trump support in 1 bid and have opps figure out what my 2 nd suit is. I like to use a bid if it is used on % base and splinters just pop up more then 5-5 hands, especially where 1 of the 5 cards has to be in pd's opening suit :) Thx Mike ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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