jdeegan Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=s75h43dkq109ca9875]133|100|Scoring: MP1♥-P-1NT-2♠P-P-????[/hv] :rolleyes: Matchpoints with a casual, but competent, partner. Now what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 double, gotta compete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Double; takeout not cooperative. Pard's double of 2♠ is takeout, and so is mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 double is a very nice bid..One I would not have found at the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 double is a very nice bid..One I would not have found at the table. Neither would I. Mind you, I would not call it a "very nice bid" either. I would have found 2NT. For me a X would show H tolerance, which I do not seem to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 I would have found 2NT. For me a X would show H tolerance, which I do not seem to have. Well, this time I don't agree. Your 1NT already shows less than 3 hearts (usually). You do have heart tolerance. 2NT would be fine for me as well, slightly inferior than double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Perhaps I should have been more explicit. For me the X would show Hx in H, not 2 rag which I do not regard as support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 I would have found 2NT. For me a X would show H tolerance, which I do not seem to have. If 1NT were limited to 10 hcp, there's a point in 2NT now being for the minors. But if 1NT was of the forcing or semiforcing variant, 2NT now can, and probably should, be the usual 11-12 bal hand. Also, why is it that you require ♥Hx to dbl? If pard has a 6-card heart, your xx should be fine. Or.. would he bid 3♥ over dbl with 5 cards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 <snip>If 1NT were limited to 10 hcp, there's a point in 2NT now being for the minors. But if 1NT was of the forcing or semiforcing variant, 2NT now can, and probably should, be the usual 11-12 bal hand.<snip> Assuming 1NT was forcing, I would switch the meaning,i.e. dbl now is bal. 10-12, and 2NT is for the minors. If I hold the 10-12 val. hand, it is more likely that wewill go plus defending. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Assuming 1NT was forcing, I would switch the meaning,i.e. dbl now is bal. 10-12, and 2NT is for the minors. You can do that, but you'll have to agree to it with pard first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 SAYC.. .ok, so 1NT was natural and denied 4♠ and 3♥'s. So 3-2 in the majors at best (and 2-2 and perhaps 3-1 is also possible). So, double is never going to be penalty. If you had a long minor, you would (could) just bid it now (long in this case is 5/6). So there are two options other than pass. Double (takeout) or 2NT as either natural or as takeout to the minors. Playing SAYC I would take 2NT as natural, so that leaves double. I am going to disagree with Hog here. With Hx in hearts I would not be in a rush to play in a 5-2 fit at the three level at matchpoints. (seems to me LOTT would require a 9 card fit for 3 level, not 7). So double is clearly the only, and correct, rebid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted December 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 :P In real life, partner's hand was a 3-5-2-3 good minimum - statistically one of the most probable distributions and HCP holdings for him to have.[hv=d=n&v=n&n=sj82haq652da5ck102&s=s43h73dkq109ca9875]133|200|Scoring: MP1♥-P-1NT-2♠P-P-Dbl-???[/hv] You chose to balance with a double on the grounds that despite vulnerability we had to compete (I certainly agree with that). Now what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 That's easy: pass or 3♣ :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 :o In real life, partner's hand was a 3-5-2-3 good minimum - statistically one of the most probable distributions and HCP holdings for him to have.[hv=d=n&v=n&n=sj82haq652da5ck102&s=s43h73dkq109ca9875]133|200|Scoring: MP1♥-P-1NT-2♠P-P-Dbl-???[/hv] You chose to balance with a double on the grounds that despite vulnerability we had to compete (I certainly agree with that). Now what? I bid 3C. This seems clear cut to me without being able to look at the prime cards in partner's hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 I agree with all that I would reopen with dbl after 2S. As for what the opener should do after pd's reopening dbl, I think dbl is definitely an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 I agree with all that I would reopen with dbl after 2S. As for what the opener should do after pd's reopening dbl, I think dbl is definitely an option. dbl over pd's dbl? I don't know bridge rules allow that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 I agree with all that I would reopen with dbl after 2S. As for what the opener should do after pd's reopening dbl, I think dbl is definitely an option. dbl over pd's dbl? I don't know bridge rules allow that. lol. I meant pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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