MickyB Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 (edited) It seems obvious to use an artificial method here, as it's pretty useful for responder to be able to show hearts constructively (especially when 5-5) but with the ability to stop in 2♥. Any pet methods around? If it makes any difference, 2♣ almost denies 4♦ for me. A few possibilities: 2♦ artificial and forcing2♥ natural and non-forcing, but constructive 2♦ showing ♥2♥ artificial and forcing, denying 4♥ 2♦ showing ♥2♥ showing ♠2♠ balanced or wanting partner to declare NT2NT raising ♣3♣ showing ♦ Over 1♦:1♠, 2♦ there is less room available, although there's still a case for using 2♥ as artificial and forcing even there. In fact, it's almost certainly right for me to do so as I play that the 2♦ denies 4 hearts. Any thoughts on methods in these auctions would be appreciated. Edited December 18, 2006 by MickyB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sathyab Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 There's a convention attributed to Gittelman(?) that lets you bid 5-4, 5-5 major suit combinations of invitational and non-invitational strength directly over 1m. 1m-2h in the non-invitational variety with 5 spades and 4+ hearts, 5-9 HCP and 1m-2S is exactly 5-4 in Spades, Hearts and 9-11 HCP. The continuations are somewhat similar to those over good-bad 2NT. I don't happen to have a link handy for it, but I'm sure you can google it pretty easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Hi, there is a simple method around, called 3rd suit forcing, which works similar as NMF forcing, i.e. all inv. or better hands go through the 3rd suit.A jump in the 3rd suit shows 5-5 with inv. values. It works ok, you can of course play something more fancy, which will be better, but it depends.For me NMF is good enough, so I wont bother with2-way checkback, and wont bother to play somethingmore elaborate than 3ed suit forcing. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 A scheme I have used for years: 1♣ 1♠2♣ 2♦ art. 1 round force 2♥natural non-forcing 2♠ non forcing 2N natural invite 3♣ non forcing 3♦ forcing 5-5 ♠-♦ 3♥ invitational 5-5 ♠-♥ 3♠ invitational Then one builds off the 2♦ bid to show other forcing sequences: the development is pretty straightforward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 In Europe we use mostly mikeh's scheme, except that the 3♥ jump is forcing 55. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 I play mikeh's scheme as well. Some people play over 1D-1M-2D-2N is forcing, but this isn't useful over clubs where you have a 2D bid available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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