Hilver Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Consider the following start of the bidding: You partner 1S 2H ... (1S = 5+-card and 12+ HCP) Two questions A) If 2H is not gameforcing, what would a jump to 4C or 4D show now. Do you prefer this to be a splinter or a control bid or even something else? B) What if 2H is gameforcing? Is your answer the same? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 If 2♥ is not GF, then I'd prefer 4♣ as a Splinter, personally. If 2♥ is GF, then my alternative options suggest that a Splinter be more precisely defined. The precise definition I elect here is that a 4♣ call in this auction shows a stiff in clubs (at best stiff Queen), good trump support (two top honors -- KQ+), a trick source potential in my original suit (two of the top three honors, plus one more of the top four honors), and no 1st/2nd round control of the fourth suit (QJ10 at best). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 When you play 2♥ as not game force, how do you play openers raise to 3♥? With a heart fit, does 2♥ now become game forcing when raised? This will impact the meaning of 4♣ and 4♦. I, like ken, when playing 2/1 GF use 4C and 4D as controlled splinters, but what I promise is a little different. Basically, when I make this splinter it denies the ACE of the splintered suit (or a void) and it DENIES a control in the unbid suit (in this case the other minor). My jump to 4♥ shows a hand like 5422 with very good hearts and spades, but without a control in either minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 A) A jump would be a splinter, since you can bid the suit a level lower as forcing A splinter bid is a control bid, since the splinter shows control based on shortness. Assuming you wanted to show values in the suit, it gets problematic, and it maybe nearly impossible depending on your cuebidding agreement. One case: opener may be to strong to make a splinter, hence he bids either 3H (forcing in SA) or makes an advanced cuebid. Advanced cue bids are sometimes a little bit problematice, since you may have problems convincing partner, that you have real support for his suit. B.) It does not matter, if 2H was game forcing or not. A more serious impact would be, if a 3H would be not be forcing (2H does not promise a rebid as in Acol), in which case, 4C / 4D still would be a splinter, but you would need to make an advanced cuebid. With kind regardsMarlowe PS: A final remark: quite often it does not matter, because most of the time, opener will have a single, unless he is 5-3-2-2 or 5-4-2-2 in which cases he can simply bid 3H, 5H, 3NT or 4NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 My jump to 4♥ shows a hand like 5422 with very good hearts and spades, but without a control in either minor. Same here, for that jump (GF auction). The only slight difference I'd have is that "very good" has specific definitions (same as for "controlled" splinters internally), and that 5332 is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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