roghog Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sj9753h72dq32ckq5]133|100|Scoring: IMPYou-(LHO)-Pard-(RHO)Pass-(1♦)-Dbl-(Pass)1♠-(Pass)-2♥-(Pass)?[/hv] Your bid. What agreements do you have in this sort of auction? What sort of hand should bid 2♠, and which bids are forcing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 My two cents: I'm not sure anything here either is or should be forcing but it seems to me that 2NT would show a more or less balanced hand with a scattering of values, and it would be my call. I suppose a cue is forcing (no kidding) but I am not sure what it would show other than being forcing. Some sort of values w/o a diamond stop probably, but maybe a maximum bid with a heart fit. I would expect the former. Here, Qxx is not much of a stop but with all missing values either across the table or on your left it will probably do so 2N seems right. I have no idea if this is at all standard, but it's what I would do. I see this as "make the call that seems right" rather than as a conventional agreement situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I play that partner's bid shows in the 17 - 20 point range, ELC doesn't apply. I have a max 1♠ call, but I agree with it since my ♦ holding is rather tenuous opposite short ♦'s. Once pard turns up with a big one suited hand, my ♦Q doesn't rate to be so bad, since pard doesn't automatically have short ♦'s. What's forcing here? 2♠ (I'd say no), 2N (probably no), 3♥ (definitely no), which leaves 3♦, so thats what I'll bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 It's tough. I will probably bid 2NT or 3NT, want to be declarer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 A limited hand (0-8 or similar) can never force. However, it is only common sense that pd can't pass our cuebid. 2♥ should NOT be ELC-- that would be 2♣! And as pd has 17-20 pts as Phil pointed out (and that's std treatment), we want to be in game. Our diamond stop is far from delighting, so 3♦ is by far the best bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sj9753h72dq32ckq5]133|100|Scoring: IMPYou-(LHO)-Pard-(RHO)Pass-(1♦)-Dbl-(Pass)1♠-(Pass)-2♥-(Pass)?[/hv] Your bid. What agreements do you have in this sort of auction? What sort of hand should bid 2♠, and which bids are forcing? I might have responded 2♠ to begin with. With 4♠ I and 8 hcp, I would have responded 1♠ but with 8 hcp and 5 card spade suit I usually jump one level. The major problem is the diamond Queen might not be pulling its full weight. Still, I would have bid 2♠. Over 1♠, 2♥ is NOT forcing, but I could have xxx xx xxxxx xxx, and partner is showing a good hand. If partner wanted to force, he could have jumped to 3♥ or cue-bid 2♦. I will bid 3♦ because if partner has Kx of diamonds, NT will play better from his side. I might end up in 4♥ if he bids 3♠ or 3♥ now. As for what is forcing by me over 2♥, nothing at the two level. So 3♦ is probably the best forcing bid availalbe (and will find out what I need to know anyway about ♦ stopper). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Pard should have a GOSH and I got some extras. I'll bid 3♦. If pard bids 3♠, I'll be ok. I trust him to bid 3♥ or 3NT on AxAKQxxJxAxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I don't think anything other than 3♦, 3♠ and 4♣(?) is forcing. But maybe it depends on your style of t/o doubles. I prefer to double with flexible hands only. If partner's bidding does not suggest any flexibility but merely a strong hand with hearts, a case could be made for 2NT and/or 3♣ being forcing. If 2NT is forcing I bid that to save some space, but without that agreement I bid 3♦. 3♦ makes it difficult to reach 3NT but we probably belong in 4♠ or maybe 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 I certainly am about at the top of my range for a 1♠ bid, so here I bid 3♦ showing my max, game interest etc, and if PD bids 3NT my queen may be of use for an extra stopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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