soldatoJ Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 How to bid 5332 Balance hand when partner bid 1NT? 5332 with slam interest5 card minor any system to bid this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzerman Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 Evolution of balanced slam invites include a few corrolaries to the 4NT quantitative invite. 1N-4S becomes 44 in minors balanced asking quantitative and 1NT-4NT is either 4333 or 5332 with 5 card minor. If opener is to accept they can accept 6NT, bid a suit @ 5 level (this is 4 lowest biddable 4 card suit), bid suit @ 6 level (5 carder) bid 5NT (3334 with 4 clubs) or bid 5C which is acceptance of quantitative bid but ASKING responder what 4 card suit is OR what 5 card suit is. Responses are; 1N-4N-5C (asking) 5D=4 diamonds5H=4 hearts5S=4 spades5N=4 clubs6C=5 clubs6D=5 diamonds This is how I handle these hands. Obviously there is a small flaw (perhaps the exact question you would like answered) is how to identify the doubleton in the 5332 hand and judge whether 6m or 6N is in play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldatoJ Posted May 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 To identify the doubleton is not very easybut if partner have minimum but you may still have 6 minor when partner have 4 card trump together with a doubleton. How to any method to due with it? Acutally I have some idea when I play Hardy 2/1 System's NT bidding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzerman Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 If you utilize MSS this should not be a problem as long as you use good hand evaluation. With a quantitative raise you may ask MSS if you have a marginal hand but lots of controls or "good cards" (eg 15 or 16 hcp with 5332 and 5 card minor with Qx in your doubleton is generally a wasted value and perhaps only 4NT ask). Although I like this question, I have not accounted for this hand in my system with my regular partner (unless I forget - LOL). We utilize many relays after 1NT to ask/illicit/describe information but this hand we have omitted!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldatoJ Posted May 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 My idea in Hardy NT bidding1N-2C (stayman can have no 4 card Major)2H-2S (invite to 3NT without 4 card spade or 5332 slam)-> 2N= don't accept invite to 3NT3C= accept invite to 3NT3D= accept invite to 3NT with 5 times heart then respond can bid something to show 5332 invite to slam 2N-> 3C = (233)5, 3D future relay for doubleton -> 3H=3235, 3S=2335, 3N =33253D = 3352, 3H = 3235, 3S=2335 3C->3D = (233) 5, 3H future relay for doubleton -> 3S= spade/3N=Heart/4C=diamond3H = (23) 5(3), 3S future relay for doubleton -> 3N= spade/4C=Heart/4D=club3N = to play 3NT 3D->3H=32353S=32533N= to play4C=(2)3(3)5, 4D relay -> 4H= spade, 4S=diamond4D=(2)35(3), 4S relay -> 4N=spade, 5C=club4H= to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 I know is not the best treatment but my approach is simple: I play 4way transfers so I transfer to the minor, if partner denies interest in the minor we can signoff in game, if partner shows interest then cue-bidding starts and we might find a good slam.Maybe you can post an example hand to check how this method would have worked (or not) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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