Apollo81 Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 ♠Q♥AQxxxxx♦x♣K10xx MPs, vul vs not (pass)-1♥-(6♠)-? RHO bid 6♠ in tempo, without any sort of tell. He is an expert, and is the type that could be bidding this as a preempt or gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLight Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Does pass ask pard to bid 7 with:- a spade void/ace- aces of ♦ and ♣- now worry about the ace of trumps? Of course not. DBL. 6♠X may be par, with 6♥ cold and 7♥ down 1. 50% is better than 0% You have 11 HCP. RHO has??? 5? KQxxxxxxxx in spades and a heart void. That still leaves some for LHO, there is a good channce he has an ace.He can Lightner double to ask for an unusual lead (not spades or trump) and probably get his trick. Even if he doesn't double, outside of hearts, where is your source of tricks? DBL, take the plus. Maybe RHO sac'ed needlessly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Does pass ask pard to bid 7 with:- a spade void/ace- aces of ♦ and ♣- now worry about the ace of trumps? Pass wouldn't be forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 7♥. If RHO has anything approaching his bid, there's a fair chance that either 6♠ or 7♥ will make. If not...well, he made a bad bid, and sometimes bad bids work. Next time he won't find me with 7 card support for partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 7♥. I've no idea what's making. My disclaimer is that I can't play matchpoints. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 7H Most people won't overcall 6S unless they think it has a chance of making, or they think we have a chance of making. This is easier at IMPs when I think 7H is obvious. MPs is tougher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I'll pull an Al Roth here: "How can you post this problem! In all my years, I've never encountered such a sequence. I abstain".... Apologies to non-BW readers ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I'll pull an Al Roth here: "How can you post this problem! In all my years, I've never encountered such a sequence. I abstain".... Apologies to non-BW readers :) ;) This kind of problem has very limited meaning for every day bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLight Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 >Pass wouldn't be forcing. I know. Hence my next line "Of Course not" I still don't see why you should bid to 7? MP is about percentages. Is there > 50% chance pard has 3 aces or 2 aces and a spade void?I don't think so, even though he opened. Even with that you still might not make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I'll double, since I don't have a first round control ♠... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted December 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I'll pull an Al Roth here: "How can you post this problem! In all my years, I've never encountered such a sequence. I abstain".... Apologies to non-BW readers :) ;) This kind of problem has very limited meaning for every day bridge. I of coruse did not post this trying to figure out what is right. I am more interested in what people would do here and what their reasoning is in hopes that I can learn something and apply it to my advantage in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temp3600 Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 X. I'm playing RHO for 2 losers, AKJxxxxxx - AKx x to be precise :D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Agree that this is a pontless problem. Anyway I'm bidding 7H. I'm not risking anything here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Double at MP7H at imps... Glad i will never face this one at the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Hi everyone He bid 6 Spades in 'tempo.' Without any sort of tell? Really? If 6Ss is not making, bidding 7H seems to be turning a plus into a minus 'unless' partner holds a miracle hand. MPs rewards plus scores. Regards, Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 This is MPs..if 6♠ makes you are getting a bad score, doubled or not since unless RHO is virtually a lock to have 12 tricks in hand, 6♠ may not be bid. 7♥ is a BIG underdog to make since PD needs all 3 missing aces and there still could possible be a club loser. Thus you have a very clear double at MPs. .. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Smack it around. Too speculative to bid on here. Lead a trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 7H Most people won't overcall 6S unless they think it has a chance of making, or they think we have a chance of making. This is easier at IMPs when I think 7H is obvious. MPs is tougher.Yes, but some people would bid 6♠ on the basis of the idea that we think they are serious. In the December issue of IMP there was a storry about poor Frank Burghout who fell victim to this LOTT violation:3♦---dbl-5♦-dblpass-6♥.a.p. opps had a 6-0 fit in diamonds while Frank and his p had a 5-1 fit in hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 I'd definately double... I'm unconvinced by any of the arguments in favour of bidding the grand, at any form of scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcD Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Think DBL is clearcut at MP : 7H is not that likely to make and if 6S makes i might be protected by the field. Much tougher decision at IMP : think double is still correct but would not have the guts and would probably bid 7H at the table. 7H is probably the correct call at rubber bridge.Anyway, do not mind to be wrong on this one since the next occurence is probably in 40 years B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 So what happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 X -- pard needs a void and a lot more for 7♥ to be right (♠ A seems improbable). Hopefully, that will be enough to salvage some MPs. If the result is a cold bottom, congratulate your RHO and make it a point to play against her more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 RHO doesn't want us to play 6♥, is he comfortable with 7♥?. lets bet he makes the last mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 So what happened? lol. 3-year anniversary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 lol. 3-year anniversary horror! I asked Noble and he says he doesn't remember! :( I'm bidding 7♥ btw and I'm sure it's right, but still it would be nice to have some confirmation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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