DWM Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 [hv=v=b&s=skqxxxhqtxxdxxxxc]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Bidding all our way, Partner opens 1C - 1S2C - ?? I was thinking that we probably have a missfit here, if so I should shut up as soon as I could. However, if he is unbalanced and min my Partner has little choice but to bid clubs again. So I bid 2H Should I have bid at all? Should I have chosen 2D over 2H, are these bids forcing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 2♥ is a 1-round force, and I don't want it to be. So I pass before lightning strikes. Sure, we may play better in any other strain, but I am not going to experiment. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceptic Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 surely a 5-2 spade fit or a 4-3 heaart fit (if it is there is better than a 5 - 0 club fit) no guarentees it is there, but is it not favorite to work out better more times that n not? not daring to critise your comment just curious ;)) I am just struggling to see your logic here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 surely a 5-2 spade fit or a 4-3 heaart fit (if it is there is better than a 5 - 0 club fit) no guarentees it is there, but is it not favorite to work out better more times that n not? not daring to critise your comment just curious ;)) You can't stop in 2♥, Wayne, that's the problem. Besides, partner had the option of rebidding 1NT with a 2-2-4-5 or 2-4-2-5 shape, so he is a strong favourite to have at least six clubs. He could even have raised to 2♠ with 3-1-3-6 or 3-3-1-6, especially if his club suit is weakish. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Just pass with this hand type. Trying to get to a better spot on misfit deals just leads to bad things happening (like partner bidding NT, or rebidding clubs again, or doubling starting). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Unfortnately you have to pass, with the knowledge there may be better strains to play in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Hi, a way to deal with those type of hands is to play NMF.Simply speaking: any inv. hand goes throughthe cheapest possible bid (usually a minor), in the given case 2D. The corrolar is, that a 2H bid in this seq. would show a weak 2-suiter, 5-4 min, requesting partnerto choose. If you dont play NMF, you have to pass, since in this case any new suit is natural and forcing.A 2S bid is an option, but it should promise a 6 card suit. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Hi, a way to deal with those type of hands is to play NMF.Simply speaking: any inv. hand goes throughthe cheapest possible bid (usually a minor), in the given case 2D. The corrolar is, that a 2H bid in this seq. would show a weak 2-suiter, 5-4 min, requesting partnerto choose. If you dont play NMF, you have to pass, since in this case any new suit is natural and forcing.A 2S bid is an option, but it should promise a 6 card suit. With kind regardsMarlowe How does your method work when partner opens 1♦, rebids 2♦ over 1♠ and your shape is 5-4-0-4, weak? Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Hi, a way to deal with those type of hands is to play NMF.Simply speaking: any inv. hand goes throughthe cheapest possible bid (usually a minor), in the given case 2D. The corrolar is, that a 2H bid in this seq. would show a weak 2-suiter, 5-4 min, requesting partnerto choose. If you dont play NMF, you have to pass, since in this case any new suit is natural and forcing.A 2S bid is an option, but it should promise a 6 card suit. With kind regardsMarlowe How does your method work when partner opens 1♦, rebids 2♦ over 1♠ and your shape is 5-4-0-4, weak? Roland Hi Roland, In this seq., it is not possible, to sign off. in 2H, due to lackof space. 2H would be art. and forcing,asking for further description. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 This depends a lot on the system style. If 2♣ promises a 6-card suit 99% of the time (as played in the US), then pass is probably the percentage bid. If 2♣ promises only a 5-card suit (as played in some countries in EU), then there's a second style issue to sort out. Some play 2♥ now as forcing, in which case you can guess between pass and 2♠, others play 2♥ as non-forcing, in which case you can bid 2♥ to show your 54 and ask for a preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 pass. pd should have 6+ clubs 90% of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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