Hope this is an informative post for newer players

[mike777]

(1c)=x=(xx)=pass(you)

 

 

1) What does your pass show?

2) What would you bid with something such as:

xxxx....xxxx....xxx...xx

3) Would your pass of partner's takeout x and the opp xx of an opening bid of 1heart or 1spade mean something different?

[ArcLight]

>(1c)=x=(xx)=pass(you)

 

 

>1) What does your pass show?

 

"Pard, I don't have any long suit to run too, you pick the run out suit

PS glad I DONT HAVE TO DECLARE THIS ;)

 

I assume we have 3-3 in the majors, probably 4 clubs, maybe 3=3=3=4 shape

Responder doesnt have a 4 card major, assume 3-3, Probably majors are 4-3-3-3 around the table, or close to that.

I hope we can find a 1 level 4-3 fit, or a 2 level 4-4 fit

 

 

>2) What would you bid with something like:

xxxx....xxxx....xxx...xx

 

This has 2 suitable spots = I would pass , see what pard bids. Maybe a major and we get lucky and find a 4-4 fit at the 1 level.

 

Its possible opener will bid as well, and take us off the hook.

If pard bids Diamonds, then he may be 3-3-5-2, not such a nice TO DBL

Probably 3/4=4=2. Dimes are OK, dont see a way to find the 4-4.

We could bid hearts over dimes, maybe pard has 4? If not its moving from a 4-3 fit to another 4-3

 

 

>3) Would your pass of partner's takeout x and the opp xx of an opening bid of 1heart or 1spade mean something different?

 

Obviously the shapes are different. If pard make a TOX of hearts its much more likely that:

1 - he has 4 spades

2 - responder would support hearts

 

Responder could have bid 2NT (Truscott / Jordan 2NT) to show a Limit Raise or better of hearts or spades - without that then assume max of 3 card fit. Probably major is 5422 pard has 2 in that major, thus 11 outside. 3/4 in the other major.

 

With opps opening 1H, pard might overcall spades with 5, or even 5 good ones.

[mike777]

>(1c)=x=(xx)=pass(you)

 

 

>1) What does your pass show?

 

"Pard, I don't have any long suit to run too, you pick the run out suit

PS glad I DONT HAVE TO DECLARE THIS B)

 

I assume we have 3-3 in the majors, probably 4 clubs, maybe 3=3=3=4 shape

Responder doesnt have a 4 card major, assume 3-3, Probably majors are 4-3-3-3 around the table, or close to that.

I hope we can find a 1 level 4-3 fit, or a 2 level 4-4 fit

 

 

>2) What would you bid with something like:

xxxx....xxxx....xxx...xx

 

This has 2 suitable spots = I would pass , see what pard bids. Maybe a major and we get lucky and find a 4-4 fit at the 1 level.

 

Its possible opener will bid as well, and take us off the hook.

If pard bids Diamonds, then he may be 3-3-5-2, not such a nice TO DBL

Probably 3/4=4=2. Dimes are OK, dont see a way to find the 4-4.

We could bid hearts over dimes, maybe pard has 4? If not its moving from a 4-3 fit to another 4-3

 

 

>3) Would your pass of partner's takeout x and the opp xx of an opening bid of 1heart or 1spade mean something different?

 

Obviously the shapes are different. If pard make a TOX of hearts its much more likely that:

1 - he has 4 spades

2 - responder would support hearts

 

Responder could have bid 2NT (Truscott / Jordan 2NT) to show a Limit Raise or better of hearts or spades - without that then assume max of 3 card fit. Probably major is 5422 pard has 2 in that major, thus 11 outside. 3/4 in the other major.

 

With opps opening 1H, pard might overcall spades with 5, or even 5 good ones.

Are you sure?

 

Are you really sure?

[whereagles]

(1c)=x=(xx)=pass(you)

 

 

1) What does your pass show?

2) What would you bid with something such as:

xxxx....xxxx....xxx...xx

3) Would your pass of partner's takeout x and the opp xx of an opening bid of 1heart or 1spade mean something different?

1. There are 2 schools of thought on this

 

school 1 (mostly US): pass shows no preference in particular, asks pard to pick a suit

school 2 (mostly EU): pass shows trump stack and willingness to play the redoubled contract

 

You just have to agree with pard which style you're playing B)

 

 

2. In school 1 you can pass and leave it to pard to pick a suit. In school 2 you pick hearts and bid 1♥

 

3. As far as I know, both schools play it as no difference at all.

[hatchett]

school 1 (mostly US): pass shows no preference in particular, asks pard to pick a suit

school 2 (mostly EU): pass shows trump stack and willingness to play the redoubled contract

 

I'd would say wherever you live overwhelmingly people belong to school 1 (with the possible exception of where Whereagles lives).

[ArcLight]

Why would you want to defend a 1 Club contract redoubled, when the opponents have 24+ HCP? They will make it on power and marked finesses, even if you score some trump tricks.

They only need 7.

 

The only case I can think of is:

opener (11 HCP)

TO X (11)

Responder (10 HCP)

You (8 HCP including Q J T 9 8 in trumps)

 

Responder may bid normally with a nice suit like a 5 card heart suit headed by AK, beacsue they fear the opps may find a spade fit.

 

 

If opener has 13 HCP, his pard 10, thats 23, and this is the usual case and on the low end. 25 HCP would not be uncommon.

 

1♣ Redoubled = 230.

If making 2 its 430 or 630 if Vuln

430 (8 tricks) with no great fit seems like a good score to me