jmc Posted August 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 I'll look for the article barmar but I think you are wrong. I think J. Baum wrote the article in Nov and implied the new system would begin in January. I think he also implied the method was ready and kinks just needed to be worked out. I'll try and find it to read it again. To announce and wait nearly a year before saying whats up is still ridiculous IMHO. jmc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 I found the following in the ACBL CEO Report: 2.04 Develop ranking system based on current performance.Management continues to search for a model that can meet the needs of our players, tournament organizers and TDs. This was scheduled for start up in 2007 with completion in 2008. We have received many comments and a few ideas from the membership. There is a great desire for this to take place. This is the largest challenge to complete for ACBL programmers, administrators and management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 I found the following in the ACBL CEO Report: 2.04 Develop ranking system based on current performance.Management continues to search for a model that can meet the needs of our players, tournament organizers and TDs. This was scheduled for start up in 2007 with completion in 2008. We have received many comments and a few ideas from the membership. There is a great desire for this to take place. This is the largest challenge to complete for ACBL programmers, administrators and management. This is the ACBL's largest challenge for its programmers, admin and management? Not online sect or reg tourney's? I see in the same report a pilot program for online tourneys was supposed to be launched in July? I wonder how it went? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Not online sect or reg tourney's? Online sectional and regional tourneys would be suicide for the ACBL. Think about it from the ACBL's point of view, and not yours, and it should be obvious. Move ACBL sectional and regional tourneys online, and the ACBL will literally cease to exist. The problem is not technological. The problem is employment. I think enough people at the ACBL understand this that it won't happen. We can have occasional club silver tourneys (eg. online club championships), but the ACBL is already running into the 'why should I pay $6 to go to a club when I can spend $1 to play at home', and over a very short period of time, that's going to really hurt the clubs. Since clubs are how most people get introduced to the ACBL, that's going to lose them their first level. For sectionals and regionals, it'll be worse. Why spend lots of a plane ticket, hotel rooms, and then $8 or $10 a session when you can play for a couple of bucks at home? And when the clubs and the smaller tourneys are gone, and the ACBL is reduced to a ratings system, the nationals, and some semi paid guys on web sites, somebody will come along with a better ratings system and payoffs, and snuff the ACBL out. Then we won't have the ACBL at all, just a USBF for international competitions. Just a matter of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Not online sect or reg tourney's? Online sectional and regional tourneys would be suicide for the ACBL. Think about it from the ACBL's point of view, and not yours, and it should be obvious. Move ACBL sectional and regional tourneys online, and the ACBL will literally cease to exist. The problem is not technological. The problem is employment. Well this report says they have a pilot program for july 2007 for online sect and reg. Anyone know the results?I understand security is a huge issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 This whole thing scares the living ***** out of me. Have any of you been adventurous (or foolhardy) enough to play bridge on pogo.com? Or Yahoo, which is similar and better known? That's what this setup would turn the whole world into. To make a long story short ---- for the everyday, common, casual bridge player the club and tournament scene would be a waking nightmare. No, rating systems should be restricted to games (chess, checkers, scrabble, etc.) where one person controls his side's destiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 The fact that ACBL uses masterpoints as the main factor to determine brackets bothers me, so I'm hopeful that a new rating system will improve things. It doesn't have to be perfect, "masterpoints won in the last 5 years" will already be more accurate. The idea that "online bridge threatens ACBL so ACBL should fight it" seems wrong. ACBL should seek the best for its members, not its own interest. That is not necessarily the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Just got my acbl magazine, congrats to:Han who finished 51st in the LM pairsPhil who finished 5th in the LM-5000 pairs I see Fred got his picture in the magazine this month. GrandLM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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