tkass Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=sa65h62daq92cakq2&w=s93haq5dkj103c10654&e=skqj104hkj93d85c98&s=s872h10874d764cj73]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] bidding was: WEst north east south ----- ------ ------ pass pass 1di 1sp pass 1nt dbl pass 2he pass pass pass what do u think about the dbl by north? what do u think about the 2 he call? thx in advance for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Take-out. I have a clear agreement here: extras with short spades, 1-4-5-3, 1-3-5-4, 2-4-4-3 or 1-4-4-4. With 18-19 balanced, too many spades and not four hearts I pass. We can't make anything because partner is broke, and we will struggle against 1NTX, again because partner is broke. If I have extras and shape, I would like to compete. I know that we can beat 1NT. I will settle for 50 instead of 100 and won't lose any sleep over it. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Agree, should be takeout, especially at imps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Was it alerted? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 The question is "What do you think about the double by North?" Well I think it was meant as penalty, though it should be takeout. It is a very poor double as 1NT is not an easy beat unless you have the nous to lead to your partner's J of C at some stage. Katherine, sorry but I don't understand your question. Why should the X be alerted? Feel sorry for South on this and I guess his 2H bid is ok. I misread the convoluted formatting originally, so I edited this. Nth deserves to be punished for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Katherine, sorry but I don't understand your question. Why should the X be alerted? Ron, after all my confusion with doubles I was trying to be funny :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 North's dbl is for penalty or take-out, depending on partnership agreement. I would bid 2D instead of 2H as South. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 I actually think that penalties has a better case here. 1NT is very often made on a misfit, and the opening side can easily have 21-23 hcp in the deal. To double here for penalties is a two-edged sword, but it makes some sense. Still, this dbl is more of a partnership agreement thing, and most agreements state that this is a take-out situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 I don't think this can be penalty. If North has spades strength, he's badly positioned. If he hasn't, spades may run. Compare to1x-pass-pass-1ypass-1NT-pass-passdbl (penalty) I have some sympathy for 2♦ though, just in case dbl was meant as penalty. Sinceif it's t/o it probably doesn't matter much if you bid 2♦ or 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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