Auto-play singletons?

[gwnn]

With the option on, it will be 100% obvious when a singleton is lead/played.

 

Reminds me of the story I read in the EBU paper about two elderly ladies who alerted a lead "It's a singleton, she lead it with her left hand. It says so on our convention card".

 

Could anything be done against this phenomenon? Or am I the only one who is annoyed?

[csdenmark]

Not sure you are the only one - but sure you are one of the few ones. You decide yourself whether you want to take advantage of this excellent option.

 

Awful to see so many clumsy players seems unable to play their singletons.

[gwnn]

Ethically, you're supposed to play singletons in tempo. I can't see why it's excellent if I play my singletons about 10x faster than any tempo on BBO.

[csdenmark]

Ethically, you're supposed to play singletons in tempo. I can't see why it's excellent if I play my singletons about 10x faster than any tempo on BBO.

Give it a little careful thought - then I certainly hope you will reach the right conclusion.

[inquiry]

a.. turn autoplay singleton off is one option

b.. get ready to play a non-singleton with blazing speed to give the impression it is an auto played singleton.

 

Option a is not only legal, it is available in the software. If you pick this, don't labor for 30 seconds before you do play it however. Option b is illegalif meant to decieve.

[hrothgar]

Ethically, you're supposed to play singletons in tempo. I can't see why it's excellent if I play my singletons about 10x faster than any tempo on BBO.

Give it a little careful thought - then I certainly hope you will reach the right conclusion.

As usual Claus, you're missing the point:

 

Currently, players have two option regarding how singletons are played.

 

Option 1: Players can manually play their cards. In theory, players don't have anything to think about when they hold a singleton. Accordingly, one would expect that singletons should be played at a smooth even tempo. In practice, some individuals play singletons slowly. the might be surfing the net and not paying enough attention to whats going on. Alternatively, they may be deliberately trying to deceive declarer into thinking that they hold extra cards and have a real problem.

 

Option 2: Players can use the "Autoplay Singleton" feature. If autoplay singleton is enabled BBO will play the singleton for you. Moreover, BBO will play this card so quickly that everyone at the table immediately knows its a singleton.

 

Most players, myself included, consider the drawbacks of Option 2 much more troublesome than the rare occasions when the opponents are using sharp practices using option 1. GWNN was echoing these concerns.

 

At some later point in time, Fred and Uday could introduce a random delay if autopaly singleton is being used and we'd have the best of both worlds (alternatively, they could just slow the damn thing down). Personally, I can think of a lot better uses of their time.

[gwnn]

a.. turn autoplay singleton off is one option

b.. get ready to play a non-singleton with blazing speed to give the impression it is an auto played singleton.

 

Option a is not only legal, it is available in the software. If you pick this, don't labor for 30 seconds before you do play it however. Option b is illegalif meant to decieve.

I can turn my autoplay off as much as I want to, but if two defenders will come and play at my table they'll get UI from autoplaying their singletons. It's nice to see someone "got it".

[csdenmark]

Personally, I can think of a lot better uses of their time.

Me too

[glen]

Tourneys should:

a) pay no attention to auto play singletons - instead players must click on them until such point as the software measures tempo and then plays singletons in normal tempo

b ) auto play the whole last trick

c) auto claim hands where whole hand is high where no play (regardless of good or bad) can produce any other outcome

[sceptic]

Claus please change the back ground colour of your ad (you are welcome to keep the ad) it just gets on my tits a bit as the colour is quite depressing and I feel like hanging myself from a tree everytime I see it :rolleyes: thank you for your co operation in this matter

[3for3]

Tourneys should:

a) pay no attention to auto play singletons - instead players must click on them until such point as the software measures tempo and then plays singletons in normal tempo

b ) auto play the whole last trick

c) auto claim hands where whole hand is high where no play (regardless of good or bad) can produce any other outcome

b ) auto play the whole last trick

 

 

 

All play should be automatic at trick 13.

 

Danny

[barmar]

I think the reason the last trick isn't always auto-played may be to allow for requesting an undo from trick 12.

[Tola18]

b ) auto play the whole last trick

c) auto claim hands where whole hand is high where no play (regardless of good or bad) can produce any other outcome

I believe option B) was on before. As it often happened to me the last 1 (2) trick disappeared suddenly and next deal was on.

If one wanted to see what happened it was necessary to look at the movie.

 

althought I havent seen this lately; it must mean they changed the program here.

 

 

But some sort of here suggested autoplay (but rather slowly!) is useful. It often happens people do quit after a bad bidden or played hand. Or are taken away to a tournament.

You cant even claim, as there needs two opponents to accept.*

In this position there usually isnt no active play left, only follow suit.

Ie it is either a claim-situation, or if the suit behaves, the rest is mine, if not - down one.

 

 

 

*There is ways to cheat the machine. Dummy, the other opponent or even declarer himself can swich place and follow suit/accept claim. But there is risk someone from outside will be thrown into the thus unoccupied chair.

[Elianna]

b ) auto play the whole last trick

c) auto claim hands where whole hand is high where no play (regardless of good or bad) can produce any other outcome

I believe option B) was on before. As it often happened to me the last 1 (2) trick disappeared suddenly and next deal was on.

If one wanted to see what happened it was necessary to look at the movie.

This happens when partner claims (or concedes). You don't get to see the claim/concession, and it goes directly to the next hand.

 

I actually don't like this, because I've seen players who were too impatient, and conceded the rest of the tricks when partner actually had a trick. Of course, declarer shouldn't accept that, but people can't help themselves, sometimes.

[Tola18]

This happens when partner claims (or concedes). You don't get to see the claim/concession, and it goes directly to the next hand.

 

I actually don't like this, because I've seen players who were too impatient, and conceded the rest of the tricks when partner actually had a trick. Of course, declarer shouldn't accept that, but people can't help themselves, sometimes.

Oh, usually they dont have any troubles accepting claims when I happen to give away too much - even although I do cry: stop, stop, wrong claim.

(yes nowadays I know I can myself recall the claim)

 

This happening as my claim is in total, but the registered claim is in the actual diagram. If the move not ready, the claim mechanism differs from reality.

 

 

It is as with the dragon head lying at the fireplace in the MothersHouse.

Is the head severed or attached to the neck? - Big difference as you know Elianna. ;)

 

 

Thanks for your kind answer, E.

[neilkaz]

Ethically, you're supposed to play singletons in tempo. I can't see why it's excellent if I play my singletons about 10x faster than any tempo on BBO.

What if the auto play singleton function had some randomization of the time to play that singleton ? Then it would be less obvious to all that the card was stiff but it still could appear to be played in reasonable tempo.

 

Just and idea .. neilkaz ..

[rona_]

Claus please change the back ground colour of your ad (you are welcome to keep the ad) it just gets on my tits a bit as the colour is quite depressing and I feel like hanging myself from a tree everytime I see it :P thank you for your co operation in this matter

Wayne,

 

Right click on the image and then click block image...You will never see it again. ;)

[Elianna]

Claus please change the back ground colour of your ad (you are welcome to keep the ad) it just gets on my tits a bit as the colour is quite depressing and I feel like hanging myself from a tree everytime I see it  :)  thank you for your co operation in this matter

Wayne,

 

Right click on the image and then click block image...You will never see it again. ;)

I was so excited to try this, but when I right-click, I get no options that say "block image" or anything of the like. I guess it's back to no longer seeing ANYONE's signatures for me.

[Blofeld]

I was so excited to try this, but when I right-click, I get no options that say "block image" or anything of the like. I guess it's back to no longer seeing ANYONE's signatures for me.

To be able to block it you need some sort of ad-blocking integrated into your browser.

 

I think sensible browsers like Firefox come with one by default.

 

Thanks to rona for pointing it out, though - it hadn't occurred to me.

[rona_]

Claus please change the back ground colour of your ad (you are welcome to keep the ad) it just gets on my tits a bit as the colour is quite depressing and I feel like hanging myself from a tree everytime I see it  :)  thank you for your co operation in this matter

Wayne,

 

Right click on the image and then click block image...You will never see it again. :)

I was so excited to try this, but when I right-click, I get no options that say "block image" or anything of the like. I guess it's back to no longer seeing ANYONE's signatures for me.

Elianna. Blofeld is right, I use firefox. I tried it with IE7 but it doesn't work. ;)