Cascade Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Hi everyone If the 2D bids shows min. hands 'up to and including' inv. type values, aren't you overloading the much more frequent bid? Hmmm overloading is what makes it more frequent. It is good on general principles to overload the cheapest bids compared with higher bids. Cheaper bids allow more flexibility in the following auction. Bidding 2♦ here with wide-ranging hands is analogous to what everyone who plays a standard system that does not include limited openings does on similar uncontested auctions. In fact an error that I see some beginner/intermediate players make is that they jump to freely in those uncontested auctions and get stranded at the three-level with a nice 16 or so opposite a minimum response with no fit and nowhere to go. With a single suit hand 'without direction'(?), why not bid 3H(?) with inv. values and either cuebid(and later bid 4H) or bid 4H with a better hand? That is exactly what I do. How often do you hold a game force 'with the other pair making a 2/1 overcall in your auction? Not often The cuebid is a fairly rare bid after an enemy 2/1 overcall. Your making a simple reply to a negative double 'very wide ranging' seems to me to be creating many more problems than it might solve. If your method works for you, enjoy. I simply do not see the advantages of overloading the much more common bid to somewhat narrow the range of a fairly rare 'jump bid.' Should a 6-5 hand with something like 3.5-4 losers really get included in a non-forcing 'and not even inv. bid of 2Ds? This doesn't create problems that are not already there in standard bidding. However jumping with invitational hands and no guarantee of a fit does create problems. These problems may be worth it in the long run I do not know but they are certainly real. Whether a jump is GF or invitational it will be relatively uncommon. Overloading 2♦ does not narrow the range or 3♦ unless you are making a jump to 3♦ both invitational and forcing which would create additional problems. With a good 6-5 hand most often I would take an optimistic view and force to game and reject 3NT. Does your partner bid game "holding KQxx of diamonds and out" opposite your simple 2D reply? That seems to place a very great burden on your partner that requires their 'viewing' a sub minimum negative double as 'a required' invitation game bid after your very wide ranging 'non jump' 2D bid. Probably not but does partner bid game with that sub-minimum takeout double when you make an invitational jump to 3♦. Maybe the diamond holding can be revalued but whether this will come to enough to be confident of underwriting game is another matter. As I said it is the same burden that partner bears in a similar uncontested auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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