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One should be careful when one has extreme length in both RHO suit and another. Odds that pard has a 55 in the remaining suits are high and no one makes a thing.

 

This hand is borderline between 3 and 4, though I consider 3 the "conservative bid", and 4 the "swing bid".

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4, just so I don't have to explain myself.

 

Seriously ... what other call is there?

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One should be careful when one has extreme length in both RHO suit and another. Odds that pard has a 55 in the remaining suits are high and no one makes a thing.

 

This hand is borderline between 3 and 4, though I consider 3 the "conservative bid", and 4 the "swing bid".

We agree, but I like 4 just a bit more than 3 if White.

 

.. neilkaz ..

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4

 

3 is the perfect definition of a 'nothing' bid.

 

It puts minimal pressure on the opps, has no real reward when it works, and may miss a game: how on earth is partner ever going to know what to do?

 

If you are afraid to bid 4, stay in bed all day: life is too dangerous for you ;)

 

1 is odd, but better than 3 ...unfortunately, that is the only good thing I could think of to say about 1.

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While I agree that 4 is the "right" bid... how about 1NT? You have a club stopper after all. You can always pull 3NT from partner to 4, and there are a lot of situations where the 1NT bid might prevent the opponents from finding their 4 contract.
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While I agree that 4 is the "right" bid... how about 1NT? You have a club stopper after all. You can always pull 3NT from partner to 4, and there are a lot of situations where the 1NT bid might prevent the opponents from finding their 4 contract.

And you can always pass partner's texas transfer ;) Not a good hand for South African Texas, however :(

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3 is the perfect definition of a 'nothing' bid.

 

It puts minimal pressure on the opps, has no real reward when it works, and may miss a game: how on earth is partner ever going to know what to do?

Minimal pressure? I don't think so. Unless LHO has an easy 3 bid, he's gonna have a real hard time over 3. Especially if his suit is diamonds.

 

4 puts LHO into a different type of pressure, not necessarily into more pressure.

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Not sure I would bid 4 with that lot.

 

If partner doesn't have hearts then we are taking an almost sure minus and we can't be sure that anyone can make anything.

 

2 Intermediate jump seems reasonable to me planning to accept any invitational noise or raise.

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