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[Mr. Dodgy]

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and...

 

what's your plan?

[Blofeld]

I'm confused. You list double as an option, but it looks like partner was the last person to bid.

[Mr. Dodgy]

You're right, my mistake, I get a little carried away polling.

 

Bonus DodgyPoint awarded :)

 

Votes for double will be regarded as supporting the YesNoYes campaign.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

3S.

 

Unless your preempt green vs. red

(add 3rd chair) are a lot sounder than

average game is remote, so the only

decision is, do I raise or do I pass.

 

I raise, but pass followed by a eventually

raise is certainly better (but I have already

voted, so 3S it is), sometimes they let you

play 2S.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[pclayton]

If you play 2♠ as 'wide ranging', then some kind of strong raise is warranted. I don't mind if pard makes 2♠ calls (even at these colors) on hands like: KQxxxx, xx, KJxx, x or AQTxxx, xx, Kxx, xx. Either of these give us a fair play for 4♠ .

 

Some kind of Ogust would be helpful here too, but in the absence of that, I'd cue 3♥.

[whereagles]

A game try is in order. I'll try 3♥ as phil.

[neilkaz]

I pass but think it close to a game try, but opposite the stuff I expect PD (white vs red) to have for a weak 2 overcall, I don't see where 10 tricks are coming from very often. I am not concerned about the opps finding a game here when I have 4♥ to the ace.

 

If the opps balance in ♦ I'll just bid 3♠ and if they balance in ♥ or ♣ I have a tough decision as to whether to X them since they are vul at MP's.

 

Just my opinion .. neilkaz ..and noting that, in general, one doesn't need to stretch to close, and perhaps anti-percentage games at MP's.

[HeartA]

A game try is in order. I'll try 3♥ as phil.

Me, 3.

[Mr. Dodgy]

A game try is in order. I'll try 3♥ as phil.

Me, 3.

I like 3♥ too, and voted that way, but chose 3♠ at the table.

 

Opener bid 4♦ which passed around to me. Should I let them play there?

[Finch]

This is really a partnership style thingie.

 

Partner is at favourable opposite a passed hand. In my style that means he could have absolutely anything from

 

Q1087x

xx

xx

xxxx

 

to

 

AQ10xxx

xx

xxx

Kx

 

although

KQxxxx, xx, KJxx, x

would probably have bid 3S last round.

 

(when explaining the call to the opponents we say 'could be very weak, may be a 5-card suit, strength is anything up to a hand unlikely to make game opposite a passed hand')

 

Anyway, if I bid 3H last round I definitely pass now as partner was consulted.

 

If I bid 3S last round I also pass, because I doubt 4S is making and I don't want to go for 300. But that is opposite me. Your partners may think differently about the 2S bid.

[Mr. Dodgy]

Some kind of Ogust would be helpful here too, but in the absence of that, I'd cue 3♥.

I like it! I see there are a couple of votes for 2NT, too. :D

[ArcLight]

You can't answer this without knowing what to expect from pards 2♠ bid.

 

Can it be Jxxxx xx xxxx xxx

up to AQJxxx xx T9xx x

 

 

RHO passed, so hearts are probably 4 = 5 = 2 = 2

 

RHO didn't bid NT so wont have a spade stopper. maybe they have some minor suit points. Sounds like a misfit.

Stay out.

 

You have a good hand, but can you make 3♠? I dont think so.

Can the opps make 3♥? I'm not sure.

Is it worth locking in -50 or gambling and see what happens if 2♠ is passed out or 3♥ is down 1.

 

Maybe this is my inexperience but I pass 2♠. LOTT be damned.

[joker_gib]

Impossible for me to pass 2♠ here whatever partner has.

 

I'll just show my hand and good support with 3♥.

 

Alain

[Robert]

Hi everyone

 

PASS opposite my partnership bidding two spades.

 

At IMPs I am fairly solid, however, playing MPs 'look out.' My style is to put pressure on the other pair. AQ10xx and 'out' often bids 2S W vs R.

 

Since I already bid partners' cards, he should not make a move without some shape. The given hand does not have 'unexpected' shape, so do not hang partner.

 

Just a matter of my partnership style. MPs sometimes rewards crazy bids.

 

Regards,

Robert

[jillybean]

3♠ 'support with support'

[Echognome]

I'll bid 3♥ but wanted to add a bit as to the reasoning. I am a passed hand, so partner will not take me for the world if I bid 3♥. I also want to tell partner I have values. This may help him in making his decision over 4♥. Note that I often DON'T want him to save as it could easily be the case that both 4♥ and 4♠ are going off. How can he judge if my simple raise to 3♠ can also show this hand? I agree that partner's 2♠ can be wide ranging (in particular if you haven't discussed it much with partner!). But your bid of 3♥ now defines your hand fairly well. I personally think that 3♣ and 3♦ are fit non-jumps (no reason to try to improve the part-score) and 3♠ can be made on a hand with only support and not much in way of values (but preferably something for partner). So we're left with 2NT and 3♥. I wouldn't venture 2NT without discussion with partner (for me it would actually show this hand as we play it as showing support, a stopper in the opps' suit, values for a limit raise and also suggesting that NT may be a place to play!). But without discussion, I'm bidding 3♥.

[kenberg]

I was one of the 3S bidders. I play Ogust in this situation with one of my partners, but I still wouldn't bid it.

 

I suppose we will take five tricks in the spade suit, a couple of side aces, and maybe a diamond ruff if we can get it either because trumps split evenly or because they don't start a trump. If partner has more than KQxxxx then of course we can get more, but it's a long way to 10 tricks. If he has extras it depends a lot on what they are, and Ogust won't tell me. It also gives them too much room. 3H is definitely better than Ogust. 3D has some merit also, although no one has chosen it so far. Given my initial pass it is unlikely that I suddenly discovered a seven card diamond suit so, undiscussed, it seems this is a diamond card and spade support.

 

But, keeping it simple, I bid 3S and if opener now bids 4D passed to me, I pass. If opponents bid 4m making exactly, it's usually bad but there is no guarantee that it will happen. Maybe they make 5, maybe they make 3. They don't know and we don't know. The bid of 3S was meant to crowd the auction a little and it seems to have done that. Maybe they guessed right. I congratulate them.