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3H should be a GF raise in diamonds which is a little suspicious but...

 

If partner had a balanced hand with 4 spades he would make a neg X

If partner had 5+ spades he would bid 2S

If partner had 5+ clubs he would bid 3C

If partner had somewhere between a good constructive raise to medium limit raise he would bid 3D...

 

If partner has 3334 with no heart stopper, he is screwed. He can bid X, 3C, or 3H depending on his hand.

 

Anyways, I won't mess around, I will bid 4N keycard.

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I take 3H as GF, denying 4+ spades, 5+ clubs, good stopper and implying fit (what shall partner do with 3424 or 3334 shape).

Anyway small slem is certain (unless we miss 2 keycards) and grand is near..

I´m afraid 4NT rebid could be undestood by partner as quantitative (18-19 bal), so I´m a 4D bidder. Then after 4H or 4S - RKCB, after 5C - 6D, after 5D - pass (partner should cuebid ace if he has any).

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Ouch, I almost forgot to have that message submitted ... :)

 

Well ty all for comments. Here the full story.

 

pass 1 2 3

pass 4 pass 4

pass 4nt pass 5

pass 7 dbl pass

pass rdbl pass pass pass

 

For sure 3 pass 4nt would be better, at least looking at result LOL

Actually I bid 4 ... after ptner's 4 I realized I was NOT so smart, now how to guess between 6 and 7 ?

 

After some buzzling I hoped ptner wd answer 4nt as rkc for :)

Or at worst for nothing :)

 

Ptner ... well look at full board now, ptner was dealt

 

AKQT K J8 T98762

 

Disaster, but we enjoyed anyway :D

 

Paolo, at1839

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Ptner ... well look at full board now, ptner was dealt

 

AKQT K J8 T98762

 

Disaster, but we enjoyed anyway :)

 

Paolo, at1839

I have a suggestion for you guys. Play double of 2H artificially, as showing 4 spades, a bit more than sound responding values, and somewhat of a takeout shape. It is called 'negative double'...

 

:)

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Hi Arend,

 

this is the SAYC and 2/1 area, so why do you suggest some widely unknown conventions to solve a bidding problem?

 

These lost souls are here to get real help.... :D

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Hi Arend,

 

this is the SAYC and 2/1 area, so why do you suggest some widely unknown conventions to solve a bidding problem?

 

These lost souls are here to get real help.... :D

Jeez, now theyre going to tell us that we shouldn't be playing 2 of a major as a response to 1N as a signoff.

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I'm surprised nobody mentioned a 3S call. Now you can see if partner is going to qbid 4c (probably).

 

After a 3S slam try, and a 4C qbid, 4d has absolutely got to be rkc.

 

If partner does not make a qbid but jumps to 5d to show extras, you probably settle for bidding 6d.

 

If partner bids 4d over the 3s call (non-forcing), it is a decision to try for slam with a 4H Qbid, or just raising to 5d. I'd probably Q the heart myself...now it's a question of whether this 4H bid is rkc or not...after a signoff attempt by partner, I would say better to play it as a Q bid looking for the spade control.

 

Another question is whether partner must qbid 4c with a minimum over the 3s Q.

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