Finch Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 [hv=d=e&v=n&w=skq8543h103dkckj98&s=s10haj95d1072c107654]266|200|1♠ P 2NT P3NT P 4♠ all pass[/hv] Scoring is a mix of IMPs and point-a-board (board-a-match). 1♠ was in a strict 4-card major/strong NT style2NT FG raise3NT likely to be a weak NT type hand You are a great player. Opponents and partner have also all played open international bridge for their country, but partner is not a regular partner. You lead a systemic low club. Declarer considers matters in a normal trick 1 type of way and plays low. Partner wins the ace of clubs, declarer playing the 2. Partner switches to the 8 of hearts, declarer the king and you win the ace. Your style when switching is pretty standard. What do you play next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suokko Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 ♣T partner had singleton ace and hand needs ruff and another ace for set. ♥8 can't be from short suit so it is clearly asking for ♣ ruff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 board a match sucks :rolleyes: I had written up a lengthy analysis assuming imps then i re-read initial post. Whether or not he will cash the DA in BAM is interesting but I think he would go after a heart trick, if declarer has AKQ of hearts thats pretty unlucky. It's more likely we have the HK and no DQ. The H8 shows no interest in the suit (if he has Q8 doubleton I can't figure that out either :P) so basically he can want a club ruff or he can have the DA. Leading a club back wont cause us to lose the DA though unless declarer has FIVE hearts (or 2 diamonds and 2 clubs). Partner wouldnt lead the H8 back with the queen unless he wanted a club ruff. I will lead a club back and pay off to declarer having Qx of clubs and a way to get rid of the diamond loser. If declarer had KQxxx of hearts he may have started with 2H anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Club seems right here also. If declarer, with a stiff ace of clubs and the ace of diamonds, knew I had the ace of hearts he would cash the ace of diamonds to make sure I give him a ruff. But he could well be playing me for the king of hearts, and then csahing the diamond ace would/could cost heavily. Similarly, if partner has the trump ace (less likely), cashing that early would be a favor to declarer if I hold the heart king. So yes, the club sounds likely. Club ace, heart ace, ruff, hopefully and very possibly one more ace. But this seems so likely I suspect you will be telling us that it is not so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Justin, declarer has the Weak NT hand. Well, definitely not 5 hearts, because he would certainly bid differently with 5-5 (or 4=5??) in the majors. Also I think the scoring is more IMPs than BAM, at least while you are defending a game. Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 ah i thought dummy was opener lol..disregard what i said...on a side note i get really confused by the whole hand diagram thing, im not sure why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Pd needs a 2551 Hand or a 2461 hand to make a club ruff likely. Another possible hand may be a 2362 with q8x in Heart. IN that case, a heart return will give us our third trick. But maybe, he had lead the Queen of heart with this holding, so I play him for the red suits and return a club as well.Of course, pd hold xx,Q8x, Axxxxx,xx and declarer can discard his loosing hearts on clubs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Pd needs a 2551 Hand or a 2461 hand to make a club ruff likely. Another possible hand may be a 2362 with q8x in Heart. IN that case, a heart return will give us our third trick. But maybe, he had lead the Queen of heart with this holding, so I play him for the red suits and return a club as well.Of course, pd hold xx,Q8x, Axxxxx,xx and declarer can discard his loosing hearts on clubs... There is just no way I can see leading back ♥8 to be standard here. I don't know whether count or attitude is standard, but in both cases it would be the 2 not the 8. (And regardless of your agreements, partner shouldn't lead the Q here, why solve a guess for declarer when he has KJ?) Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted November 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 This problem was a bit of a damp squib, because partner has really made things impossibly difficult for you. The full hand is (approximately)[hv=n=sxxhq8xxdaxxxxcax&w=skq8543h103dkckj98&e=saxxxhkxxdqjxxcqx&s=s10haj95d1072c107654]399|300|[/hv] At the table your partner, North, thought for a long time before winning the ace of clubs, so it was clear he didn't have a singleton. South, Tony Forrester, who is both a great player and a very ethical one, won the ace of hearts and immediately returned a club letting the contract make. He commented at the table that he felt under pressure to do so. [i don't know why partner switched to the 8 of hearts. Perhaps he was concerned that if declarer had KJ and guessed correctly you would return a heart rather than cashing his DA to hold it to contract.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 At the table your partner, North, thought for a long time before winning the ace of clubs, so it was clear he didn't have a singleton. Frances, I am not sure I understand this. Cannt pd think about what to play after winning club ace? Does pd have to win club ace immediately if it is a singleton and then think about what to do next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 At the table your partner, North, thought for a long time before winning the ace of clubs, so it was clear he didn't have a singleton. Frances, I am not sure I understand this. Cannt pd think about what to play after winning club ace? Does pd have to win club ace immediately if it is a singleton and then think about what to do next? Yes, he has to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 OF course not. He is not allowed to break the tempo by playing a singelton quicker then a normal card. But obviously North took too long and this isn´t allow in any case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 North should win a stiff A♣ or ♣Ax in tempo. This is appropriate. When an ethical player plays the Ace here, there is nothing discernable. Personally, with the stiff Ace, I try to mentally wait a little longer and with Ax, I try to win it a little quicker. Its human nature to win a stiff Ace quickly, and I think you need to counteract this impulse. If Declarer played small at T1 quickly, I think there is less pressure on 3rd hand to play in tempo, however, this is more the case when North has a real problem at T1. Here, North has no problem. if North has ATx, there would be more of an issue. I doubt if Tony would have given his pard a club ruff if the A♣ hit the table in .5 second (I've been warned about using the term 'nanosecond' :)) followed simultaneously by the ♥8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 And what the heck is a damp squib? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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