Flame Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 1. 1♣ P 1♦ 1♥a] 1♠ b] Double 2. 1♣ P 1♦ 1♠ Double What does a and b show in 1 and what is double in 2 ? Please reffer to whater the hand can be balanced and how many hcp the bid show. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Usually, support-doubles apply only when responder bid a major. If you play Walsh, it makes some sense to play a support doubles here. On the other hand, by many Walsh-players the 1♣ opening denies a minimum with a 4-card diamonds so you may just play a single raise of diamonds as showing 3-card support. Conclussion: If you play Walsh, the double shows 18-19 balanced and no stop in opps suit. A cuebid would show a strong, unbalanced raise of diamonds. If you don't play Walsh, I would play a double of hearts as showing a balanced hand with spades while 1♠ shows an unbalanced hand with spades. A dbl of 1♠ simply shows 4 hearts, balanced and/or minimal. (With extras and unlanced you bid 2♥). Not sure what to do with 18-19 and no stop. Probalby either dbl (with hearts) or cue (without). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Hi, first of all it is a matter of partnership agreement. There are a few partnership, which play double as suppX, just for memory sake, other options would be negative or penalty. Which one is better is unclear, but it dependsa little bit on your response style to 1C,if you always bid up the line, a neg. X makeswill occur more often, than it would be,if you always resopond with the mayor, when holding 4-4.And if you play Walsh, you dont really needthe neg.X.If you say suppX make only sense looking for mayor suit fits, than penalty would probaably be the bestusage playing Walsh. With kind regardsMarlowe PS: I play the dbl as neg, and the difference between a and bin #1 is suit quality, 1S shows 4 1/2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted October 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Let me simplify things a bit.We are not playing walsh nor up the line, we play something in the middle which i consider standard.I'm pretty sure that at auction 1 biddign spade show unbalnced hand like 4-5 while doubling show balance. I'm also pretty sure that at auction 2 double show 4 hearts.What im not sure is whater with a balnced 12 hcp you would bid anything but pass.and if not on balanced 12 then does balance 14 is enough.What i think is this 1♣ P 1♦ 1♠ Doublecant be 12 balanced, but not sure if it can be nice 13/14 balanced. (seems like 14 balanced is fine)About the other sequence1♣ P 1♦ 1♥Here i think double can be even with balanced 12.Am i right ?I post this on beginer's forum because i believe this is basic bridge and also because i want simple answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 What im not sure is whater with a balnced 12 hcp you would bid anything but pass.and if not on balanced 12 then does balance 14 is enough. I don't think you should make a distinction between 12 and 14. Partner is unlikely to care, especially for competitive decisions where he needs to be able to estimate the total number of trumps, not your sides HCPs. It might be different opposite a passed responder, especially if you opened light in 3rd seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 <snip>What im not sure is whater with a balnced 12 hcp you would bid anything but pass.and if not on balanced 12 then does balance 14 is enough.What i think is this 1♣ P 1♦ 1♠ Doublecant be 12 balanced, but not sure if it can be nice 13/14 balanced. (seems like 14 balanced is fine)About the other sequence1♣ P 1♦ 1♥<snip>I post this on beginer's forum because i believe this is basic bridge and also because i want simple answers.<snip> Hi, if you hold a bal. with 12-14, you have smetimesthe option to bid NT, since you hold a stopper in their suit. If we eliminate this option, the option that you cant raise partner, and also the option, that you hold theother mayor, what is left? A 4-4-3-2 or 4-3-3-3 with xxxx or xxx in the overcalledsuit, and since you are weak, the best bid to show a minimum opening hand without a prober bid is pass. With kind regardsMarlowe PS: We are all looking for simple answers, but dependingon your bidding style certain answers make sense and others dont make sense. And even in the Beginner forum, I wouldalways only discuss pro and contra of certain options leaving the final decision to the reader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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