Mr. Dodgy Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 [hv=d=s&v=b&s=s75hqt82d62ckq763]133|100|Scoring: IMPP-P-1♦-1♠?[/hv] simple SA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 double! I'm not going to have another bid, we can play in 2♥, 2♦, 1nt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Did this hand come from real life or from an article describing the classic hand for a negative double? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 neg. X If you require more strength to makea neg. X, which is fine, than you have to Pass. With regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Did this hand come from real life or from an article describing the classic hand for a negative double? Is this some of that Aussy humor? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 dbl, wtp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Did this hand come from real life or from an article describing the classic hand for a negative double? Is this some of that Aussy humor? :P If it was humour then it was English humour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 ok... tell your partner to come look.... you are right double is the right bid. Feel better :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dodgy Posted October 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Good idea, Ben...unfortunately, the blame is all mine :( I thought a NegX showed a bit more than this, although this a very good 7-count. I tend towards restraint opposite a 3rd seat opening. Yes, that's my vote all on its own. Thanks for taking part, humiliating to me as it is. Regards, Justin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Hi Justin, I think you're right that negative doubles do usually show more than this, but then the shape isn't usually this perfect, nor the location of the values. As always in bridge, it's a balancing act. You mention wanting to be careful opposite a 3rd seat opening; while this is worth bearing in mind in general it looks very likely that you have a fit somewhere here, so parnter's lack of values shouldn't make bidding too dangerous. And as you're a passed hand you're limited above, which in fact means that you can stretch the lower end of the double slightly without damaging partner. If I were an unpassed hand I'd still double if you removed the ♥T or turned the ♥Q into the ♥J, but not both of these things. As a passed hand I'd double even with both of these, but no worse. Owen (whose judgement isn't all that good either) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearmum Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 [hv=d=s&v=b&s=s75hqt82d62ckq763]133|100|Scoring: IMPP-P-1♦-1♠?[/hv] simple SAX (neg) WTP?? because I have both the unbid suits AND (more important) I am a passed hand :P IF Partner has a really good hand (game forcing opposite a hand with ♥ and ♣ [and probably 8-9points for the negX] ) he can let me know with his next bid :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 A neg X that will force partner to bid at the two level, normally should contain 8-10 hcp. While the hand is "slightly" light on its values, it has some other things going in its favor. 1) it has both of the other suits2) all of its hcp are contained within the two suits3) one of the suits is even 5 cards4) two doubletons, one of which is in the opponents suit.5) You're already a passed hand; partner cant be expecting a lot. If you have the opportunity to show your approximate values and shape in one bid, then do so. It does not have to be "perfect".....and this hand is about as close to perfect as you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Two quick comments. i) This negative double does not force partner to bid at the 2-level; he can bid 1NT (and will quite frequently do so). The auction 1D (2C) x needs more values because partner may have to rebid 2NT on a weak NT. ii) Being a passed hand shouldn't change the lower limit of the range for a negative double, as a minimum it should show much the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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