Competing Against Strong Club

[Winstonm]

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RHO opens 1C (Artificial and forcing). You haven't played in about 6 months so you can't remember quickly how to overcall 1S (LoL - correct answer is 1H, but it takes too long to remember so you pass). Responder bids 1D(negative) and partner bids 2C(1-suiter in diamonds or the majors). Opener bids 2H.

 

Replay:

1C*-P-1D-2C*

2H-??

 

Do you bid?

 

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[keylime]

Tough. I can't double because having pard play in a 5-2 at the 3 level in diamonds is just mean.

 

I'm going to risk 2S. I should have some resemblance of play.

[hrothgar]

I'm forced to pass...

 

Systemically, I should have shown Spades on the first round. Ergo, whateverever call that I take right now CAN'T show the hand that I have. The specific meaning of 2♠ really will depend on partnership agreement. However, I'd be expecting something like

 

KJ65

63

KT3

7652

 

The hand is good enough to make a white versus red over call of a strong club opening in direct seat, but prefers to play 3♦ if partner has that hand type.

[pclayton]

Unfortunately this is a green 1♠ overcall (sounds like youre playing suction, so 1♥). No one likes decisions where we have misbid in the 1st place.

 

2♠ should be p/c with something more like: AKxx, xx, Qxx, xxxx. Pard should not pass 2♠ with a ♦ overcall.

 

Could double of 2♥ be the p/c call with 2♠ as natural? Only if we talked about it in advance.

 

I'm bidding 2♠ anyway.

[P_Marlowe]

Pass.

 

Simple probability tells you, that partner will not

have the mayors, he will hold the single suiter

in diamond.

 

2S is pass or correct, and unless your intervention

after they opened stong 1C are a lot sounder than

mine, I am not willing to play on the 3 level in a 6-2

fit, and that assums already that a 5-2 fit is not an

option.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

 

PS: You are green vs. red and you have passed,

so usually partner will have leeway in his auctions.

[Winstonm]

Unfortunately this is a green 1♠ overcall (sounds like youre playing suction, so 1♥). No one likes decisions where we have misbid in the 1st place.

 

2♠ should be p/c with something more like: AKxx, xx, Qxx, xxxx. Pard should not pass 2♠ with a ♦ overcall.

 

Could double of 2♥ be the p/c call with 2♠ as natural? Only if we talked about it in advance.

 

I'm bidding 2♠ anyway.

Yes, we are using suction over 1C, but it had been so long since I'd played I couldn't remember it in tempo so passed. By the time it got around to partner, I had mentally reviewed suction and had a clear idea of what his bid meant. The question then became to me not whether or not I could risk 2S but could I risk 3D if 2S was wrong.

[cherdano]

Unfortunately this is a green 1♠ overcall (sounds like youre playing suction, so 1♥). No one likes decisions where we have misbid in the 1st place.

 

2♠ should be p/c with something more like: AKxx, xx, Qxx, xxxx. Pard should not pass 2♠ with a ♦ overcall.

 

Could double of 2♥ be the p/c call with 2♠ as natural? Only if we talked about it in advance.

 

I'm bidding 2♠ anyway.

Yes, we are using suction over 1C, but it had been so long since I'd played I couldn't remember it in tempo so passed. By the time it got around to partner, I had mentally reviewed suction and had a clear idea of what his bid meant. The question then became to me not whether or not I could risk 2S but could I risk 3D if 2S was wrong.

So the question is whether we want to raise partner on a doubleton? After opps have started to sort out their strengths and suits?

 

That's a no-brainer-no for me.

Arend

[Winstonm]

Unfortunately this is a green 1♠ overcall (sounds like youre playing suction, so 1♥). No one likes decisions where we have misbid in the 1st place.

 

2♠ should be p/c with something more like: AKxx, xx, Qxx, xxxx. Pard should not pass 2♠ with a ♦ overcall.

 

Could double of 2♥ be the p/c call with 2♠ as natural? Only if we talked about it in advance.

 

I'm bidding 2♠ anyway.

Yes, we are using suction over 1C, but it had been so long since I'd played I couldn't remember it in tempo so passed. By the time it got around to partner, I had mentally reviewed suction and had a clear idea of what his bid meant. The question then became to me not whether or not I could risk 2S but could I risk 3D if 2S was wrong.

So the question is whether we want to raise partner on a doubleton? After opps have started to sort out their strengths and suits?

 

That's a no-brainer-no for me.

Arend

Not entirely a no-brainer; partner could still hold majors for this action. So I guess a better way to put it is whether or not it is worth the risk of bidding 2S and risk playing in 3D.