t/o dble by a passed hand

[sharon j]

What does this double by North mean? How many points and does it mean 3+ Clubs & Spades?

 

North=P East=P South=1D West=1H

=Dble

 

I'm never sure what to expect when a passed hand doubles the opponent's overcall.

[pbleighton]

Partner has 4 spades, the same as if she wasn't a passed hand.

 

Peter

[P_Marlowe]

North dbl means the same, you just have

the add. information that your partner is

limited, i.e. after the dbl you know, he has

6-(-)12 HCP, if he would be unpassed, than you

would only know +6HCP.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[barmar]

P_Marlowe, do you often make takeout doubles with only 6 HCP?

 

For an unpassed hand, a takeout double usually shows at least the strength of an opening hand. If a passed hand doubles, he's just a little lower than opening strength, usually 10-11 HCP. I'd also expect most of his strength to be in the unbid suits.

 

With less strength and more distribution (e.g. 6-9 HCP and 5-5 in the inbid suits), a passed hand can bid 1NT. This is basically the same as Unusual 2NT, but there's no need to jump because a passed hand can't have a strong NT.

[P_Marlowe]

P_Marlowe, do you often make takeout doubles with only 6 HCP?

 

For an unpassed hand, a takeout double usually shows at least the strength of an opening hand.  If a passed hand doubles, he's just a little lower than opening strength, usually 10-11 HCP.  I'd also expect most of his strength to be in the unbid suits.

 

With less strength and more distribution (e.g. 6-9 HCP and 5-5 in the inbid suits), a passed hand can bid 1NT.  This is basically the same as Unusual 2NT, but there's no need to jump because a passed hand can't have a strong NT.

.-) wrong terminology, neg. X instead of take out.

Although our t/o doubles oppossite a passed partner

are light, ... very light.

My partner insisted on a lower bound to prevent me

from bidding with 0HCP .-), but I wont reveal the limit.

 

It is not everyones cup of coffee, but we do it regardless

of the opponents strength, to see, if it works.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[sharon j]

thanks for the reply. So, just to make sure I understand:

 

N = P E= P S=1D W=1H

N= Dble

 

This is a Negative double & shows 6+pts & 4 spades (over the 1H overcall)

 

What would a dble by a passed hand mean in the following bid sequence?

 

N=P E=P S=P W=1H

N=Dble

 

This is a takeout dble? What does it show?

 

Thanks for the help

[P_Marlowe]

thanks for the reply.  So, just to make sure I understand:

 

N = P  E= P  S=1D  W=1H

N= Dble

 

This is a Negative double & shows 6+pts  & 4 spades (over the 1H overcall)

 

What would a dble by a passed hand mean in the following bid sequence?

 

N=P E=P S=P W=1H

N=Dble

 

This is a takeout dble?  What does it show? 

 

Thanks for the help

Hi,

 

that is a t/o dbl.

 

However you play t/o dbl by an unpassed hand

(shape oriented, i.e. at least 3 card for all other suits

or only mayor oriented or just value showing),

in this seq. it shows at least 3 cardsin the unbid suits)

(if there are only 2 unbid suits, it promises 4-4) and

shortage in the bid suit.

Also it shows a certain strenth, say +8/9HCP, but

it would be ok to make the bid with 6/7 HCP and

5-4-4-0 shape.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

 

PS: Dont forget the upper limit, i.e. those bids do not only

promise +6, you are also limited by your first Pass.

[barmar]

Sharon, to make it easier for us to read your posts, please leave out the "N =", "E =". Just post the auction like in a bidding diagram:

 

P P 1♦ 1♥

X

[sharon j]

thanks for your help. I really appreciate it. I will also remember to show the bid

sequence correctly in the future .