badderzboy Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 After a night of mad hands this hand turns and just as you are about to possibly show a 2 suited hand for the 4th time! [hv=d=e&v=b&s=sqt986hj9dkt9753c]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] East passes and I did the same Q1 - do u agree? West now bids 4♣ ((described as strong long suit but pre-emptive in nature) and partner bids 4♥s and East 5♣s. Q2 what do u do now 5♥,DBL or pass? If u bid 5♥ then South bids 6♣s.... and is passed around to you Q3 Do u bid 6♥ or dbl or pass? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Q1: If I can show a weak two suiter I will, else I pass Q2: 5 ♥ q 3: X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Hi, q1: passq2: passq3: pass With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Yes I pass the first time too. Isn't this second pass forcing by definition? A preempt has been raised by a passed hand creates a force our way. Let pard make the decision. I won't mind dbl or 5♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLight Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 >Isn't this second pass forcing by definition? A preempt has been raised by a passed hand creates a force our way. Phil,Is this the common expert method? Am I understanding this correctly? What if the passed hand has a max passed hand, with a good fit.2♠ - bid - 3♠ - pard may have a good hand, and you may have a dog. Will pard really double on his own? (forcing pass) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Question is, Who's zoomin' who?" Since you have no C and p may have xx or worse whatever happens you don't have a hand that is defensively oriented so I would just quietly bid 5H, expecting to make. Pass the 6 C to pard, you have told your story with the one bid of 5H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 >Isn't this second pass forcing by definition? A preempt has been raised by a passed hand creates a force our way. Phil,Is this the common expert method? Am I understanding this correctly? What if the passed hand has a max passed hand, with a good fit.2♠ - bid - 3♠ - pard may have a good hand, and you may have a dog. Will pard really double on his own? (forcing pass) I think it applies to higher levels; perhaps 4; definitely 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Some people treat p p 2M bid 4M as a forcing pass sequence. I don't, mainly because I'm allergic to them and there are a lot of hands where they just make 4M and we go for a number if we have to bid. I think you have to treat p p 3m bid 5m and this auction as forcing though... making 11 tricks for a passed hand opposite a preempt is much harder than 10. Sure occasionally you will go for 750 but it isn't really much of a disaster, and from a fequency point of view you will be gaining a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsb Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 1) i will open if i have a 2 suiter bid available2) 5D 3) double regardssyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 1. Pass unless I have a method for 2-suiters2. Dbl, most flexible3. 6♥, 5-level belongs to opps, 6-level belongs to us :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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