nielsfoged Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 [hv=d=n&v=n&e=st7hjt876dj9652c9&s=saq92hk2da74ckt85]266|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Being my first post at this forum, it better be representative of my major experience with this game:I made a mistake, but at least it was yet a new one! Bidding went:pass-(pass)-1♣-(1♥),2♣-(3♥)-pass-(pass),3♠-(pass)-3NT-(4♥),Dbl-all pass Opponents bid naturally, whereas my 1♣ was either natural or 15-19 bal, pd's 2♣ was 6-9 hcps with 5+c ♣ and less than 4c ♠, my pass was 15-16(17) bal, pds 3♠ showed a stopper, and his Dbl was to discourage further bidding. Out came ♥4 covered by 6. How do you plan the defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 [hv=d=n&v=n&e=st7hjt876dj9652c9&s=saq92hk2da74ckt85]266|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Being my first post at this forum, it better be representative of my major experience with this game:I made a mistake, but at least it was yet a new one! Bidding went:pass-(pass)-1♣-(1♥),2♣-(3♥)-pass-(pass),3♠-(pass)-3NT-(4♥),Dbl-all pass Opponents bid naturally, whereas my 1♣ was either natural or 15-19 bal, pd's 2♣ was 6-9 hcps with 5+c ♣ and less than 4c ♠, my pass was 15-16(17) bal, pds 3♠ showed a stopper, and his Dbl was to discourage further bidding. Out came ♥4 covered by 6. How do you plan the defense? If I am reading the auction right... Declarer has 4513 shape or something close. He may need to ruff four black cards in dummy or potentially 3-4 diamonds in his hand. Rise ♥K and plan to lead another trump when I am in. If/when I am in after that I will try to force dummy using the clubs. Hop dA if led from dummy to guard against stiff K. If partner's count indicates a 3-card diamond holding then may need to cash black tricks to prevent declarer discarding all of his clubs/spades (depending on his shape) Best I can give only knowing play from dummy. -Noble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 I will play a low trump at trick one. This may be critical. If he plays a ♦ from dummy, rise with the A and watch partner's card: if he shows an odd number, cash out In case declarer has an unlikely KQ tight in ♦. An even number, exit the (carefully preserved) trump K. Note that had you played the K at trick 1 and declarer exits the ♦K, you win and a low ♥ puts declarer in dummy, a trick ahead. In fact, if declarer is Jxxx AQxxx K Axx he makes unless you defend as indicated. BTW, the bidding looks weird to me: East ought to bid 4♥ early while West almost certainly has a hand on which he has a good expectation of beating 3N, with little chance of making 4♥ opposite a 3♥ bid, unless he has seen East bid before :)..... All constructions I cam up with had West with a ♣ guard or North with 6+♣, neither really making a lot of sense on the auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nielsfoged Posted October 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 If I am reading the auction right... Declarer has 4513 shape or something close. He may need to ruff four black cards in dummy or potentially 3-4 diamonds in his hand. Rise ♥K and plan to lead another trump when I am in. If/when I am in after that I will try to force dummy using the clubs. Hop dA if led from dummy to guard against stiff K. If partner's count indicates a 3-card diamond holding then may need to cash black tricks to prevent declarer discarding all of his clubs/spades (depending on his shape) Best I can give only knowing play from dummy. -Noble You are close, but I am sure you can do a little better :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nielsfoged Posted October 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 I will play a low trump at trick one. This may be critical. If he plays a ♦ from dummy, rise with the A and watch partner's card: if he shows an odd number, cash out In case declarer has an unlikely KQ tight in ♦. An even number, exit the (carefully preserved) trump K. Note that had you played the K at trick 1 and declarer exits the ♦K, you win and a low ♥ puts declarer in dummy, a trick ahead. In fact, if declarer is Jxxx AQxxx K Axx he makes unless you defend as indicated. BTW, the bidding looks weird to me: East ought to bid 4♥ early while West almost certainly has a hand on which he has a good expectation of beating 3N, with little chance of making 4♥ opposite a 3♥ bid, unless he has seen East bid before :)..... All constructions I cam up with had West with a ♣ guard or North with 6+♣, neither really making a lot of sense on the auction.100% correct, mikeh, that is the clue: No matter how indifferent it may look, don't use that dead ♥K in trick 1. The board was played in live bridge (not on the net), and as far as I (South) noticed, the bidding went smooth all the way, so I was not even near to calling the TD. However, you are right mikeh, the 4♥ bid from West was much more succesful than obvious, all white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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