hatchett Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 My friend from England sent me this hand from the Evening Standard last week. [hv=n=sq432ha75dkq6cat8&s=s8hkqt2da73ckqj76]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] You bid to 6♣ (uncontested) by south. The lead is the J♠ ducked. The ♠10 is continued which you ruff. The author suggests rather than drawing all the trumps and hoping ♥s play for four tricks, you should draw two rounds of trumps (all follow) and then play on the heart suit gaining when a hand with Jxxx♥ has only 2♣s. Can you find a better line than the author? Hide answers to give others a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 You bid to 6♣ (uncontested) by south. The lead is the J♠ ducked. The ♠10 is continued which you ruff. The author suggests rather than drawing all the trumps and hoping ♥s play for four tricks, you should draw two rounds of trumps (all follow) and then play on the heart suit gaining when a hand with Jxxx♥ has only 2♣s. Can you find a better line than the author? Hide answers to give others a chance. My first thought was a dummy reversal Ruff the Spade and cross to dummy with a HeartRuff a Spade high and cross to dummy with a DiamondRuff a Spade highKing of ClubsLow Club to the 10Ace of ClubsCash your winners You end up with 3 Club tricks3 Club ruffs3 Hearts3 Diamonds However, it looks like the heart suit will run roughly 70% [sic 54%] of of the time. The 10 of Hearts is a big card. Looks like dummy reversal is about 2% worse sic [14% better] than drawing trump and praying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_c Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Hey, this is really interesting, I think the author has the right play in the wrong situation: Start by drawing two rounds of trumps with the king and ace. Now if both opponents follow, you play for the dummy-reversal. It's virtually guaranteed to work once you know trumps are 3-2. On the other hand, if trumps are breaking 4-1, now may be the time to go for the suggested play of playing on hearts before drawing any more trumps. (Though it seems quite close, since you can pick up Jxxxx on your right by drawing trumps first. I wouldn't like to have to work out the exact percentages. Change the ♥T to the nine and it becomes more clear.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLight Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 I must be overlooking something - I don't see how the hearts will produce 4 tricks over 70% of the time. You make 4 hearts on all:5-1 splits with a stiff jack (2.5%?)4-2 splits with jack in the 2 card hand (1/3 of 48% = 16%) Whats left is 3-3 (36%) vs 2-4 with RHO having 4 (half of 48% = 24%) Play for the drop at that point 36+16+3 = 55%? Or is the way to look at it the ratio between 36 and 24 3:2 = 60% 19% chance of making 4 after 2 cards, + (1 - .19 = 81% * 60%) = 48% 48 + 19 = 67% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 I must be overlooking something - I don't see how the hearts will produce 4 tricks over 70% of the time. You overlooked the obvious, which is that I made a severe typo in my script... (had a "club" where a "heart" should be... The new improved version came up with a 54% chance that the Hearts produce 4 tricks. David's line looks better than the simple DR that I originally suggested predeal north SQ432, HA75, DKQ6, CAT8south S8, HKQT2, DA73, CKQJ76 jackdrops = hearts(east) == 3 or (hascard(east, JH) andhearts(east) <=2) or (hascard(west, JH) andhearts(west) <= 2) dummy_reversal = clubs(east) == 2 orclubs(east) ==3 action average "jackdrops" jackdrops,average "DR" dummy_reversal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Cash CK at #3, C to CA (#4):1) If C3-2, play dummy reversal. Ruff another S; D to K and ruff last S. H to K and draw last trump.2) If C4-1, C10 to Q and draw last trump (pitch Sx from dummy). Cash 3 diamonds, HK and H to Ace. If HJ appears, you claim. If it doesn't, you may have a squeeze againt RHO or decide to finese HJ or play H3-3, depending on the discards of opps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 I agree with everyone else about what to do if all follow to two trumps ending on table. What is interesting is what if trumps are 4-1. If West has 4 trumps, then hearts coming in or a major suit squeeze on East (who appears to have the AK of spades) looks very good odds. You will come down to QAxx-- -KQ10x-- and your RHO cannot have more than 3 hearts left.This is now only going off when LHO started with a 3424 or 4414 distribution (and on the latter I assume he would have led a diamond) If East has 4 trumps, together with at least AKxx of spades (according to the way the play in spades was described) then playing to ruff a heart in dummy definitely won´t work, so all you can do is hope the hearts run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Just some comments to add: 1) Hearts win 4 tricks 60.9% when J/Jx/Jxx drops OR Jxxxx/Jxxxxx in East because you can take the marked finesse by cashing king then ace and see West shows out. 2) Evening Standard bridge author missed simple dummy reversal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 The best line is the one that wins the opening lead!! (ok, its a joke!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 This beginner/intermediate section is getting some expert stuff lately :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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