Dwingo Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 The Gazilli FD file under conventions is in Italian. Will some one help uploading an English translation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnszsun Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 I have made an english version Gazzilli, it's nearly the same with Italian version in FD database except some adaptation according to my 2/1 bidding system.Who should i send it to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geller Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Send it to bridgeguys@cox.net -Bob Geller P.S. There also was another English version published in India. It'll be interesting to compare the two versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwingo Posted September 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 If I remember right - inquiry & Cascade were taking the responsibility for the convention files. If you send it to them, they could upload it to the conventions database. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 I have made an english version Gazzilli, it's nearly the same with Italian version in FD database except some adaptation according to my 2/1 bidding system.Who should i send it to? Didn't you send it to me? I am examining one now for possible inclusion as a convention, and I thought it came from you. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnszsun Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 I have made an english version Gazzilli, it's nearly the same with Italian version in FD database except some adaptation according to my 2/1 bidding system.Who should i send it to? Didn't you send it to me? I am examining one now for possible inclusion as a convention, and I thought it came from you. Ben yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 I have modified the gazzilli conventions in agree with last use in Italy.Also this version is in italian - I will send it to inquiry-cascade so it will be available on next bbo version Vincenzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 and i have a version sent to me from above that seems to be in good shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Pardon me, but I may not know where to look since I cannot on BBO, find info about anything other than BBO Basic or BBO Advanced. I'd really like to know more about Gazilli which is commonly mentioned in forums here, but to which I can find nothing much about it in English and little even little in Italian which I can struggle through reading/translating to some extent. So where is more info about FD systems listed on BBO and where can I find out more, in English, about Gazilli. thx .. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 I found a nice discussion of Gazzilli in the Delhi Bridge newsletter. Part 1 is here http://homepage.mac.com/bridgeguys//pdf/GazzilliND1.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vang Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 part 2 and 3 are also there (GazzilliND2.pdf GazzilliND3.pdf). thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillHiggin Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Other than 4 lines beginning 1S P 1S (corrected to 1S P 1N) and a note about an apparent error for the point range on 1H P 1S P 2C P 2D P 3N this includes both the original Italian and English *00{Gazzilli}=NYYYYYYSystem standard BBO ITALY. Gazzilli convention.\\Sistema standard BBO ITALIA. Convenzione Gazzilli.001H=NYYYYYY0585+!H, Nat. not stronger than 4 losers\\5+carte; Nat. max. 4 perdenti001HP1S=NYYYYYY548Nat\\Nat001HP1SP2C=YYYYYYY508Gazzilli convention. Either normal strength 5!H - 4!C or some reverse excluding 6-4 shape\\Convenzione Gazzilli. Può prevedere o una mano di dritto Cuori-Fiori o una qualsiasi mano di rovescio ma non 6-4001HP1SP2CP2D=NYYYYYY508Relay, 8+ Game forcing if opener has reverse strength hand\\Relè, 8+ FM a fronte di una mano di rovescio dell'apertore.001HP1SP2CP2DP2H=NYYYYYY2585!H - 4!C, not reverse strength\\Mano di dritto Cuori-Fiori001HP1SP2CP2DP2S=YYYYYYY638reverse strength with 3!S\\Mano di rovescio; 3 carte di picche001HP1SP2CP2DP2SP2N=YYYYYYY0Relay for distribution\\Relè per la distribuzione001HP1SP2CP2DP2SP2NP3C=NYYYYYY0483!S - 5!H - 1!D - 4!C, reverse strength \\5 cuori - 4 fiori - 3 picche - 1 quadri mano di rovescio001HP1SP2CP2DP2SP2NP3D=NYYYYYY0483!S - 5!H - 4!D - 1!C, reverse strength\\5 cuori - 4quadri - 3 picche - 1fiori mano di rovescio001HP1SP2CP2DP2SP2NP3N=NYYYYYY25-3-3-2 with 3!S, 18-19 HCP \\5-3-3-2 di 18-19 punti con tre carte di picche001HP1SP2CP2DP2SP2NP3S=NYYYYYY6335-3-3-2 with 3!S, 16-17 HCP\\5-3-3-2 di 16-17 punti con 3 carte di picche001HP1SP2CP2DP2SP2NP3H=NYYYYYY6683!S - 6!H, reverse strength\\6° di cuori, mano di rovescio con 3 carte di picche001HP1SP2CP2DP2N=YYYYYYY65-5 reverse strength or 5-3-3-2 no 3!S, 16-17 HCP\\5-5 di rovescio oppure 5-3-3-2 di 16-17 punti senza 3 carte di picche001HP1SP2CP2DP2NP3C=YYYYYYY008Relay\\Relè001HP1SP2CP2DP2NP3CP3D=NYYYYYY0055!H - 5!D, reverse strength\\5-5 con le quadri001HP1SP2CP2DP2NP3CP3H=YYYYYYY0585!H - 5!C, reverse strength\\5-5 con le fiori001HP1SP2CP2DP2NP3CP3N=NYYYYYY25-3-3-2 no 3!S, 16-17 HCP\\5-3-3-2 di 16-17 punti senza 3 carte di picche001HP1SP2CP2DP3C=NYYYYYY648reverse strength with 5!H - 4!C, no 3!S\\Mano di rovescio con 5 cuori, 4 fiori, ma senza 3 carte di picche001HP1SP2CP2DP3D=NYYYYYY648reverse strength with 5!H - 4!D, no 3!S\\Mano di rovescio con 5 cuori, 4 quadri, ma senza 3 carte di picche001HP1SP2CP2DP3H=NYYYYYY668reverse strength with 6+!H, no 3!S\\Mano di rovescio con almeno 6 carte di cuori001HP1SP2CP2DP3S=NYYYYYY648reverse strength with 5!H - 4!S\\Mano di rovescio con 5 cuori e 4 picche001HP1SP2CP2DP3N=YYYYYYY25-3-3-2 no 3!S, 16-17 HCP (wah note should be 18-19 HCP)\\5-3-3-2 di 16-17 punti senza 3 carte di picche001HP1SP2CP2H=NYYYYYY108less than 8 points, signoff\\meno di 8 punti, riporto001HP1SP2CP2S=NYYYYYY258less than 8 points, Nat.\\meno di 8 punti, Nat.001HP1SP2N=YYYYYYY56!H and another 4 card suit, reverse strength\\6 cuori e quarta laterale; mano di rovescio001HP1SP2NP3C=YYYYYYY508Relay for side suit\\relè001HP1SP2NP3CP3D=NYYYYYY0486!H - 4!D\\6 cuori e 4 quadri001HP1SP2NP3CP3H=YYYYYYY0086!H - 4!C\\6 cuori e 4 fiori001HP1SP2NP3CP3S=YYYYYYY0086!H - 4!S\\6 cuori e 4 picche001HP1N=NYYYYYY2Natural not forcing, it excludes 4+ spades\\Naturale non forcing, esclude 4+ picche001HP1NP2C=NYYYYYY508Gazzilli convention. Either normal strength 5!H - 4!C or some reverse excluding 6-4 shape\\Convenzione Gazzilli. Può prevedere o una mano di dritto Cuori-Fiori o una qualsiasi mano di rovescio ma non 6-4001HP1NP2CP2D=NYYYYYY008Relay, 8+ Game forcing if opener has reverse strength hand\\Relè, 8+ FM a fronte di una mano di rovescio dell'apertore.001HP1NP2CP2DP2H=NYYYYYY2585!H - 4!C, not reverse strength\\Mano di dritto Cuori-Fiori001HP1NP2CP2DP2S=NYYYYYY644reverse strength, 5!H - 4!S (17-18 points); (with hands of advanced force one declared 2 spades on the answer of 1 KNOWS of companion)\\Mano di rovescio, 5 Cuori e 4 picche (17-18 punti); (con mani di forza superiore si dichiarava 2 picche sulla risposta di 1 SA del compagno)001HP1NP2CP2DP2N=NYYYYYY65-5 reverse strength or 5-3-3-2, 16-17 HCP\\5-5 di rovescio oppure 5-3-3-2 di 16-17 punti001HP1NP2CP2DP3C=NYYYYYY644reverse strength with 5!H - 4!C\\Mano di rovescio con 5 cuori, 4 fiori001HP1NP2CP2DP3D=NYYYYYY644reverse strength with 5!H - 4!D\\Mano di rovescio con 5 cuori, 4 quadri001HP1NP2CP2DP3H=NYYYYYY668reverse strength with 6+!H\\Mano di rovescio con almeno 6 carte di cuori001HP1NP2CP2DP3N=NYYYYYY05-3-3-2 of 18-19 points\\5-3-3-2 di 18-19 punti001HP1NP2N=YYYYYYY56!H and another 4 card suit, reverse strength\\6 cuori e quarta laterale; mano di rovescio001HP1NP2NP3C=YYYYYYY508Relay for side suit\\relè per conoscere il colore quarto001HP1NP2NP3CP3D=NYYYYYY6446!H - 4!D\\6 cuori e 4 quadri001HP1NP2NP3CP3H=YYYYYYY6666!H - 4!C\\6 cuori e 4 fiori001HP1NP2NP3CP3S=NYYYYYY6446!H - 4!S\\6 cuori e 4 picche001S=NYYYYYY2585+!S, Nat. not stronger than 4 losers\\5+carte; Nat. max. 4 perdenti001SP1N=NYYYYYY2Natural not forcing\\Naturale non forcing001SP1NP2C=NYYYYYY508Gazzilli convention. Either normal strength 5!S - 4!C or some reverse excluding 6-4 shape\\Convenzione Gazzilli. Può prevedere o una mano di dritto Picche-Fiori o una qualsiasi mano di rovescio ma non 6-4001SP1NP2CP2D=NYYYYYY508Relay, 8+ Game forcing if opener has reverse strength hand\\Relè, 8+ FM a fronte di una mano di rovescio dell'apertore.001SP1NP2CP2DP2H=NYYYYYY658reverse strength with 3!H\\Mano di rovescio con 3 carte di cuori001SP1NP2CP2DP2HP2N=YYYYYYY0Relay for the distribution\\Relè per la distribuzione001SP1NP2CP2DP2HP2NP3C=NYYYYYY0485!S - 3!H - 1!D - 4!C, reverse strength \\5 picche - 4 fiori - 3 cuori - 1 quadri mano di rovescio001SP1NP2CP2DP2HP2NP3D=NYYYYYY0485!S - 3!H - 4!D - 1!C, reverse strength\\5 picche - 4 quadri - cuori - 1 fiori mano di rovescio001SP1NP2CP2DP2HP2NP3N=NYYYYYY25-3-3-2 with 3!H, 18-19 HCP \\5-3-3-2 di 18-19 punti con tre carte di cuori001SP1NP2CP2DP2HP2NP3S=NYYYYYY6336!S - 3!H, reverse strength\\6° di picche, mano di rovescio con 3 carte di cuori001SP1NP2CP2DP2HP2NP3H=NYYYYYY6685-3-3-2 with 3!H, 16-17 HCP\\5-3-3-2 di 16-17 punti con tre carte di cuori001SP1NP2CP2DP2S=NYYYYYY2445!S - 4!C, not reverse strength\\Mano di dritto, Picche - Fiori001SP1NP2CP2DP2N=NYYYYYY65-5 reverse strength or 5-3-3-2 no 3!H, 16-17 HCP\\5-5 di rovescio oppure 5-3-3-2 di 16-17 punti senza 3 carte di cuori001SP1NP2CP2DP2NP3C=YYYYYYY508Relay\\Relè001SP1NP2CP2DP2NP3CP3D=NYYYYYY0055!S - 5!D, reverse strength\\5-5 con le quadri001SP1NP2CP2DP2NP3CP3H=YYYYYYY0585!S - 5!H, reverse strength\\5-5 con le cuori001SP1NP2CP2DP2NP3CP3N=YYYYYYY25-3-3-2 no 3!H, 16-17 HCP\\5-3-3-2 di 16-17 punti senza 3 carte di cuori001SP1NP2CP2DP2NP3CP3S=YYYYYYY6555!S - 5!C, reverse strength\\5-5 con le fiori001SP1NP2CP2DP3C=NYYYYYY644reverse strength with 5!S - 4!C, no 3!H\\Mano di rovescio con 5 picche, 4 fiori, senza 3 carte di cuori001SP1NP2CP2DP3D=NYYYYYY644reverse strength with 5!S - 4!D, no 3!H\\Mano di rovescio con 5 picche, 4 quadri, senza 3 carte di cuori001SP1NP2CP2DP3S=NYYYYYY668reverse strength with 6+!S, no 3!H\\Mano di rovescio con almeno 6 carte di picche senza 3 carte di cuori001SP1NP2CP2DP3N=YYYYYYY25-3-3-2 no 3!H, 18-19 HCP\\5-3-3-2 di 18-19 punti senza 3 carte di cuori001SP1NP2CP2DP3H=NYYYYYY644reverse strength with 5!S - 4!H\\Mano di rovescio con 5 picche, 4 cuori001SP1NP2CP2H=NYYYYYY258less than 8 points, Natural\\meno di 8 punti, Naturale001SP1NP2CP2S=NYYYYYY202less than 8 points, signoff\\meno di 8 punti, riporto001SP1NP2N=YYYYYYY56!S and another 4 card suit, reverse strength\\6 picche e quarta laterale; mano di rovescio001SP1NP2NP3C=YYYYYYY508Relay for side suit\\relè per conoscere il colore quarto001SP1NP2NP3CP3D=YYYYYYY6446!S - 4!D\\6 picche e 4 quadri001SP1NP2NP3CP3H=YYYYYYY6446!S - 4!H\\6 picche e 4 cuori001SP1NP2NP3CP3S=YYYYYYY6666!S - 4!C\\6 picche e 4 fiori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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