jillybean Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 [hv=d=s&v=b&s=saj10xxxxhaxdacaxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] The bidding went 1♠ (p) 1nt (p) Would you open this 1♠ ? Having opened 1♠ how do you continue after your hear 1nt? tyjb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Yes4S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 I would've opened 2♣, but can live with 1♠. Now I'll just bid 4♠: "I want to play in ♠, whatever you have, and I'll probably make it" <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Playing normal 2/1, open 1S, rebid 4S. Playing a system whcih allows acol 2 bids to be opened 2C, i would open 2C, and partner would bid 2D (since had enough for 1NT), then I bid a forcing 2S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 1S, followed by 4S. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 ok, 1♠:1nt 4♠ your partner holds [hv=s=sqxhk10xxdxxxckj10x]133|100|[/hv] Do we have another bid? Without an Ace or void Im not sure if cue bidding over game is wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 "Do we have another bid? Without an Ace or void Im not sure if cue bidding over game is wise." I would pass here. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 ok, 1♠:1nt 4♠ your partner holds Dealer: ????? Vul: ???? Scoring: Unknown ♠ Qx ♥ K10xx ♦ xxx ♣ KJ10x Do we have another bid? Without an Ace or void Im not sure if cue bidding over game is wise. Pass, next board. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 [hv=d=e&v=a&n=sq2hkt82d764ckjt5&w=s973hj973dqj52c97&e=skhq65dkt983cq643&s=sajt8654ha4daca82]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Some pairs did find 6♠ after a strong, artificial opening.We were E/W , just watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 What does 1S-1NT-4S show : long spades and 12-14 pts?Could you start with 1S-1NT-3C here and rebid 4S over anything partner bids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 [hv=d=e&v=a&n=sq2hkt82d764ckjt5&w=s973hj973dqj52c97&e=skhq65dkt983cq643&s=sajt8654ha4daca82]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Some pairs did find 6♠ after a strong, artificial opening.We were E/W , just watching. Hi, if you decide to it 2C, you will reach 6S,no way, that responder will stop below the 6 level, he has 3 tricks opposite a 2Copener, but as always, it is a matter of partnership agreement if you open the hand 2C. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Dealing AJTxxxx Ax A Axx opposite Qx Kxxx xxx KJTx, Both, IMPS 50/50 2C opener. If you open 2C, you will probably get to 6S. If you open 1S, you should rebid 3C over 1N then bid 4S to show this hand. Partner may or may not recognize that 2 kings and 1 queen are great. But I think that is the best bidding. Reserve the 1S 1N 4S bidding for weaker hands with better spades. Something like AKQxxxx xx Axx x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 [hv=d=s&v=b&s=saj10xxxxhaxdacaxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] The bidding went 1♠ (p) 1nt (p) Would you open this 1♠ ? Having opened 1♠ how do you continue after your hear 1nt? tyjb With outside Aces and a long major I want to open 2clubs if I have 9 playing tricks.How many playing tricks should I estimate AJTxxxx equals?I have 7 spades so there are 6 outstanding.I will assume the 6 spades will break evenly among the other hands.With that assumption I have 9 spades so with 7 spades across from 2 spades and with spades breaking evenly I will estimate 6 playing tricks in spades. If you add the 3 outside aces I estimate this hand as 9 playing tricks so I open a strong 2 clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Partner could also have put down: x, xxx, KQJxx, xxxx There is no doubt big club bidding does better on these hand types - when your chosen system doesn't allow you to do the same, shrug if off and move on to the next board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Partner could also have put down: x, xxx, KQJxx, xxxx There is no doubt big club bidding does better on these hand types - when your chosen system doesn't allow you to do the same, shrug if off and move on to the next board. You may use other systems than big club, as long as you can stay low without problems. Gazzilli for example would help: 1♠ - 1NT2♣! - 2♦! (natural and minimum OR 16+ ; 8+ any distribution)3♠ - 4♣ (the GF auction ; control)4♦ - 4♥ (control ; control)... Now you know about ♥K and ♣K (or singletons in those) so slam becomes quite easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Dealer: South Vul: Both Scoring: IMP ♠ AJ10xxxx ♥ Ax ♦ A ♣ Axx The bidding went 1♠ (p) 1nt (p) Would you open this 1♠ ? Having opened 1♠ how do you continue after your hear 1nt? tyjb With outside Aces and a long major I want to open 2clubs if I have 9 playing tricks.How many playing tricks should I estimate AJTxxxx equals?I have 7 spades so there are 6 outstanding.I will assume the 6 spades will break evenly among the other hands.With that assumption I have 9 spades so with 7 spades across from 2 spades and with spades breaking evenly I will estimate 6 playing tricks in spades. If you add the 3 outside aces I estimate this hand as 9 playing tricks so I open a strong 2 clubs.Reviewing this hand again, I agree with you Mike. It should be counted as a 4-loser, 9-winner hand which qualifies in my book for 2C. The possession of all the Aces is a big plus as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 In the given auction, you can evaluate hand as 4 or 5 losers and think how many cover cards pard is likely to have. A 5-10 hcp hand usually covers for 1 or 2 of your losers, so the percentage bid is a straightforward 4♠ :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 A fairly reasonable way to determine if the hand is worth a 2C opening is to visualize sub-minimum responding hands that would make game a reasonable proposition but could not resond to a 1S opening bid: Qx, xxxx, xxxx, Qxx xxx, xxxx, xxx, Qxxx9xx, xxxx, Kxxx, xxx and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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