jdeegan Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 [hv=d=s&v=e&s=s106532hk4dq86ca86]133|100|Scoring: IMPP-P-1♥-1♠P-2♣-2♥-P????[/hv] :) Playing SAYC. Your bid?Do you disagree with either of my first two passes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 This first Pass is clear, the 2nd well, I am a nice person, so I will call iteccentric.A more mainstream bid would have been 1NT.Now you can throw a dice, Pass or bit2NT (my vote, since the dice came up with 5),what ever suits you best, it doesnot matter, it is a pure guess, you tookpartner out. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 2nd Pass is OK but 1N shows some values and a stop; which is a good description. I'm a little too good for 3♥ now I think; I'll cue 3♣ as 2♠ should be natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 1nt over 1s3H now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 I'd respond 1N. 3H now. 9 scattered points with no ruffing value is not a limit raise. Much less and I'd just pass 2H, so 3H is about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Phil, looks like we are the two voting for 3C (b4 seeing your comments). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 I would just bid 4H. 3H inviting may be better theoretically, but I dont want too much science here. All my cards seem working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdiBichea Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 hi, i vote for 3♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Another vote for 3♥. You have a pretty good max for previous passes, with all working points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 The question should not be whether you have enough to bid 3♥.... only a confirmed pessimist would even be worried about that. The question is whether 3♥ is enough..... given that you held a 1N bid the first time around, and chose pass, there is no way partner is picturing this hand... BTW, why the 1N? Because a common sequence, after pass, is pass double pass to you, and you have NO call that comes close to describing your values. It is not that 1N was wonderful, it wasn't.... it is that it is so much better than pass... a common bridge situation... no call is appealing, so choose the least distortion, and 1N is that. What should 2♠mean? Compared to 3♣? I think it has to be natural...... even tho the chances that rho psyched are zero, you could still hold KJ1098x x Qxx Axx... and 4♠ may be the only making game. The way to describe a very unusual hand (which you now hold, given the auction) is to make an unusual bid... and 3♣ fits the bill. Ordinarily, when the opps have bid two suits, a cue of one shows a stopper in that suit and seeks a stopper in the other for notrump purposes, but your original pass (presumably without a ♠ stopper) denies interest in 3N, so I think it has to show a maximum 2 card ♥ raise, strongly interested in game.... looks like what you hold.BTW, I would not force to game.. at this vulnerability, partner does not need much beyond a good 6+ suit to bid 2♥, altho he may equally well hold something like x AQJxxx AKx xxx. Let's ask him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 mikeh: cueing instead of 3♥ is superior, yes. The problem is whether pard won't start having strange thoughts because of it, as in "why didn't he cue 2♠ instead?" or "why cue and not 3♥? that must be a singleton and..." If you see what I mean...? This shouldn't be a problem in a regular partnership, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhar Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 I don't think you can have more than this for your passes; so 3C seems pretty clear. Partner will know you don't have three hearts because you didn't bid 2H last turn. I would have also bid 1NT on the prior turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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