paulhar Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 You play fourth suit forcing, ostensibly to game. Which of the following auctions express an interest in slam (showing extra values beyond those required for game)? a. 1D - 1H - 1S - 2C - 2D - 3D? b. 1D - 1S - 2C - 2H - 3C - 3D? c. 1D - 1H - 1S - 2C - 2D - 2S? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Hi, I voted A&B, but slam interest is also stillpossible with C.The 4th suit seq. created a game forcing situation.In seq. A&B, 5D is certainly the game to play, but you need only power for onemore trick, so slam interest is obvious.In 6, it depends a bit on the meaning ofthe direct jump sifht to 2S, is it weak, strongreverse flannery (...).Responder could hold a strong 6 card spade suit with +15HCP, and still be interested inslam. But this hand type may be not possible anymore. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Assuming that the question was which sequence unambiguously announced slam interest, I voted C. A and B certainly could be based on hands with slam interest, but they could also be used when responder is unsure of strain as well as level... agreement on a minor does not preclude 3N at these levels. C, otoh, has to be at least mild slam interest, since responder could have shut the auction down via 4♠ over either 1♠ or after the 4sf bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 C, otoh, has to be at least mild slam interest, since responder could have shut the auction down via 4♠ over either 1♠ or after the 4sf bid. Don't you think responder could have a 35(32) hand with a partial club stopper, trying to find out whether to play 3N or the 4-3 fit? Slam interest could be announced by jumping to 3S. Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 C, otoh, has to be at least mild slam interest, since responder could have shut the auction down via 4♠ over either 1♠ or after the 4sf bid. Don't you think responder could have a 35(32) hand with a partial club stopper, trying to find out whether to play 3N or the 4-3 fit? Slam interest could be announced by jumping to 3S. Arend I would think rebidding 3d would make sense with that hand. 1d=1h1s=2c2d=3d Axx,,,AKxxx...Qxx..Kx In any case 4sf auctions are going to be messy and confusing often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Hand a: Opener showed 0-2 Spades, no heart stopper, 5+ Diamonds 4 clubs and no significant extras. If I want to explore a game, which game is likely?Not 4 Spade, as I did not show a fifth spade. Not 5 clubs, as I did not support them. So the choice is between 3 NT and 5 Diamond. For 3 NT I need a Heart stopper. PD does not have one. If I have one, I can bid 3 NT, not 3 Diamond. If I need help in hearts, I can ask with 3 Hearts, but I did not. So 3 Diamond has just one message: Slam Interest. Hand b: Pd showed 0-2 spades, 5+ Diamonds, 5 clubs, nothing in Hearts.If I want to offer game in spades or clubs, I can simply bid this suit. If I want to play NT, I can simply bid it. If I need help in heart I can ask, so again, I see no reason why 3 Diamond shouldtell aynthing besides: Slam interest in Diamonds. Hand c: Same resoning. If 3 NT depends on the club stopper, you can ask for it. But if you don`t do, you just want to investigate for slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 A & B seem to be showing interest in the minor suit game rather than 3NT, so will tend to have potential for slam interest. C appears to be struggling to find a fit rather than expressing an interest in slam! Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 I sort of agree with mikeh, but I don't really see the point of the question: I would say slam is possible on all of them, because responder is unlimited on all of them. The only sequence where we absolutely know responder has slam interest is C where he has announced 4-card spade support and a hand too good to bid game. But on both A and B responder could have a 25-count and bid like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 In all auctions, responder might be trying to know more about opener's hand (e.g. extra shape, location of high cards, controls or quacks), so as to know whether to try for slam without bypassing 3NT. (This is why he might not want to bid a clear-cut slam-bound 4♦ on AB.) Probing for stoppers is a possibility, but since hands with minor suit(s) usually end up in 3NT rather quickly, so I'd say there's a good chance responder is slammish on all cases ABC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 WHen a minor fit is found, your priority is 3N not 5/6m. So both A/B could be slam interest but still too early to say. Only if you find you have stoppers in all suits and bypass 3N then you show slam intereest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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