Walddk Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 [hv=d=s&v=e&n=sj6hk108dqj762ckj6&s=saq7542hqj3dk854c]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Team game. You open 1♠, double to your left, partner redoubles and RHO bids 2♣. Eventually, you end up in 4♠. West leads a small-ish club to the jack and queen, and you ruff. At trick 2 you correctly lead a low spade from hand, and LHO wins his king (East following with the 8). West continues with a club, you try the king, but East produces the ace. You must ruff again. 1. How do you envisage the EW hands? 2. How do you proceed from here? This is meant to be for beginners/intermediates, so if your skill level is higher, please use hidden text. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberlour10 Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 edit: ups mistake by reading & thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnszsun Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 trumps have to be 3-2 because i can't handle 4-1 break; ♦ need to be 2-2, otherwise defence will get a ♦ ruff. I can't play 2nd trump, otherwise i will lose out of control. So my line is:play a ♥ to K, they win and return 3rd ♣, ruff in hand, play one or two round ♦ to force out ♦Ace. Because there is still a trump left in dummy, i'm safe now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceptic Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 WEST SPADES HEARTS DIAMONDS CLUBS kx Axxx Axxx xxx EAST SPADES HEARTS DIAMONDS CLUBS xxx xxx void AQxxxxx This is sort of how I see the hands, I think you need to concentrate on controling the trumps as they may have a ruff somewehere especially when they take one of the aces to find it, we have a void, why should opps not have a singleton at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted August 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 WEST SPADES HEARTS DIAMONDS CLUBS kx Axxx Axxx xxx EAST SPADES HEARTS DIAMONDS CLUBS xxx xxx void AQxxxxx This is sort of how I see the hands, I think you need to concentrate on controling the trumps as they may have a ruff somewehere especially when they take one of the aces to find it, we have a void, why should opps not have a singleton at least I don't think that this is the layout, Wayne. If East really has AQxxxxx in clubs, he would surely have bid more than 2♣ over the redouble. That is not a strong bid. It just shows many clubs opposite what could by 3 (sometimes even 2 if West decided to double on a 2-4-5-2 or 2-5-4-2 shape). So with 6+ clubs headed by AQ, East should bid at least 3♣. It makes it a little more difficult for the opponents if you take the 2-level away from them. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted August 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 This seems to be difficult for many readers, so let me give a little help. Assume that trumps are 3-2 or 2-3, because they must be in order for you to have a chance. As a consequence, you can pull the outstanding trumps if you want to, but do you? Is there a danger looming? Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 As everyone's keeping quiet.... Before we get to 10 tricks, the opponents can have led clubs 4 times. We can't take all 4 club ruffs in hand or someone will have more trumps than us, and we won't be able to enjoy the diamonds. So we need to leave a trump on table to take care of the fourth club, and cannot afford to draw trumps. That means we need diamonds 2-2 (or LHO to have singleton DA with the ace of hearts), as well as spades 3-2, making LHO probably 2425 and RHO 3325 which is more or less consistent with the auction. Personally, I'd bid 3C over the redouble on xxx xxx xx AQxxx but this is related to how shape suitable you like to keep your take-out doubles. There is one baby trap left. At some point we have to knock out the ace of hearts. We need to be careful to keep one of the QJ of hearts in hand rather than play them. Otherwise, the play will go queen of hearts (ducked), jack of hearts taken, club ruffed in hand; diamond ducked, diamond taken, club ruffed on the dummy. Oops... now we can't get back to hand to draw trumps. Alternatively, if the first heart is ducked we can just switch to playing on diamonds as we only need 1 heart trick (5 spades + 4 diamonds + 1 heart = 10). p.s. I'm not totally certain the spade out of hand at trick 2 was correct. We can discuss this later, if you like... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdiBichea Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Hi, I am Adi (adibichea) BIL member, hope to resolve this problem. 1. W hand, aprox. distribution .. the points are correct ♠Kx ♥Axxx ♦Axx ♣xxxx 11HCP, that shows DBL E hand, aprox distribution and points ♠xxx ♥xxx ♦x ♣AQxxxx 6HCP, showd in 3rd round. If E have 7♣'s with 6HCP, i am sure he bid 3♣ or even more. 2. after 3rd round, i play a small ♠ to J to test if ♠distribution is 2-3 or 3-2. if distribution is 4-1 or 1-4 i have no chance to make the contract. And i can't make the contract if ♣ is 5-5 even if trump are 3-2. Supose trump stay 3-2 or 2-3, and ♣ 4-6, or whateva, but not 5-5 After i win with J♠, i play a small ♦ to K to promote my ♦, now only losers is 1♠, 1♦ and 1♥. I don't play trump from my hand. exception: ruff. If W win with A♦ and play another ♣ (final club) I ruff it, and now play the ♦ to QJ of dummy hand (or finesse if E have void in ♦) ... and play diamond's to force E or W to ruff(final opposite trump). If E ruff the ♦, he play ♣ .. now ruff club and play another ♦ or ♥. and now the contract is done. I am thinking correctly? Regards, AdiBichea .. and intermediate player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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