Power hand and partner trust

[P_Marlowe]

Another exaple

 

you hold

 

♠Q10xxx  ♥Q  ♦- ♣KJ10xxxx

 

 

you partner open 1♣ 16+ , you answer 1NT 7-9 pts any

 

he bid 2♠, you bid 4♦Cue bid, he bid 4♠

 

 

second bid 1♣ - 1♠ ( nat 5+ 8+pts )

 

he bid 2♠ you bid 4♦ same and he also close to 4♠

 

do you will look for more ?

Hi,

 

If after openers 4S bid you have the feeling

that you did not tell the whole story about your

hand, than maybe 4D splinter was the wrong bid.

 

In the first seq. the splinter describes your hand

fairly well, but if you believe that 5th spade is worth

a move, bid 5S over 4S.

 

In the second seq. 3C and 3S are certainly alternatives

to the 4D call, ... 3C being the better bid, especially if

3C would show values.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

 

PS: I prefer 1S instead of 1NT.

[whereagles]

Well.. in this case you have a very unusual hand, 5 losers opposite an expected 4 cover cards from the club bidder. Clearly one final slam try is mandatory.

 

If you want to be disciplined, try 5♣ and pass if pard bids 5♠.

 

If you want to risk a little, 6♣ is the bid. That should show a 65 or better, with diamond void (with 6511 you bid blackwood).

[ochinko]

I'm afraid your second example proves nothing at all. Against whom were you playing?

Yes, sorry that I took the thread off-track, but it looked exausted. Admittedly, none of the opponents was an expert. LHO overcalled my 3♣ with 3♠ holding

 

AQ542

KD94

A85

2

 

He could have doubled or bid bravely 4♣.

 

RHO passed with

 

K8

A7532

103

10987

 

You can't blame them too much. My point was that when I believe there is not much value in describing my hand to partner, I can at least make opps' task more difficult. That's the link between the examples and the original hand in question.

[Gpm_bg]

Ok, i'll gave more details, maybe first explanation was very fast

 

you hold up card and you play precision ♣ with your partner

 

Now only you both bidding

 

He open 1♣ which mean 16+ any pts

You have two ways to respond with your cards

1. - 1NT - some variants of precision first bid is only pts 7-9pts any distrubution

 

On your 1NT(any) he bid 2♠ which is 5+♠ 16-20 pts

You gave 4♦ Cue bid with 4+♠ support and control ♦ ( single or void )

He close to 4♠, rejecting to continue bidding controls

 

2- 1♠ natural 5+♠ 8+pts

He gave bid 2♠ which could be non other 5th suit and same pts

For me he can't bid 3♠ which should be higher level of opening 20+ pts 3+♠ and no 5th suit again. 3♠ in that bids sound definetly as SI if you are not in range 8-10 pts and you don't have suitable controls

 

On 2♠ you gave 4♦ at control and again SI

if he bid 4♥, which is most interesting control for you how should be continued from now on

And if he bid 4♠ does it mean stop and signoff or not exactly ?