badderzboy Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 [hv=d=s&v=e&n=sqxxhkxxxxd10cjxxx&s=saxxxhxdkj987xcqx]133|200|Scoring: MP[/hv] S....W....N...E1♦ DBL 1♥ Pass1♠ DBL pass pass? corrected as per Free's request (Back to nursery for me to learn Left and right!!) (i) do u pass or pull to 2♦? (ii) How do u plan the play on A♣ by West followed by K♣ by East and a 3rd ♣ by East? Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 who are you, what is LHO and RHO,... you seem to bid counter clockwise :D Just type the auction plz, it will be A LOT easier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I would pull to 2D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I would pull to 2D, which may not be better, but you may play undoubled, or the opps may play in clubs or hearts. Yes, I would have opened, but in standard bidding it is close, and I would expect many to pass. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceptic Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 big demerit for me I would pass out I am happy to play with 4/3 fit and I dont think you will come to any more harm than 2!D x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I would pull to 2D which is better than 1S. Playing 1S, my D suit would become garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'd pass: partner already agreed to play ♠... On the 3rd ♣ I think I'll play ♣J and discard a ♥, followed by a ♦ to set up my crossruff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'd pass: partner already agreed to play ♠... On the 3rd ♣ I think I'll play ♣J and discard a ♥, followed by a ♦ to set up my crossruff. ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ochinko Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 If you play that a new suit after a double is non-forcing, then 1♠ is a very bad bid. Your partner could be with 2=6=2=3 and very few points. If your partner would start with a redouble with 10+ points, then your opps have more points than you. Why bid all the suits when you have neither points, nor a chance to find a fit? I would prefer that the opps play in spades. This could easily happen if you allow them to make a mistake. Pass 1H, then if it goes Dbl-Pass-Pass to you, bid 2♦. This provides the opps with another chance to err, and points to the suit that you really would prefer to be lead if opps buy the contract. What would a third double mean if there are two unbid suits? Are you sure they'd be sure? You could even escape without a dbl in 2♦. How would opps know you don't have a 6:2 fit? Now I really don't know what to do, so I'd probably pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Didn't read the original post carefully, thought 1H got doubled. I agree that South should pass 1H and run into 2D if 1H got dbled and passed to me. Edit: I wouldn't open with South's hand either. In rare case when I opened, I would not introduce my S suit after RHO dbled and pd bid 1H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 i'd pass also... of course i'd have opened 1S to start with ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I slightly prefer to pass originally. OK OK rule of 20..but I have only 1.5 QT and a dblton queen and mediocre spots. With the bidding given I don't pull to 2D since PD has said he is OK with playing 1S and must have 3 of them. This auction is an example of what can happen when you open 1m on subminimal (for me) values. I won't criticize PD is he/she opens this, but I'd pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 I would pass not open this hand and I would play 1 Spade X now. Many people here play, that 1 Heart from pd was forcing, so I have much understanding for the 1 Spade bid. Frees line of play seems to be correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 I will pass 1S. A 2D bid will be doubled and be one level higher, and I see at least 6 losers.Play Free's line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Didn't read the original post carefully, thought 1H got doubled. I agree that South should pass 1H and run into 2D if 1H got dbled and passed to me. Edit: I wouldn't open with South's hand either. In rare case when I opened, I would not introduce my S suit after RHO dbled and pd bid 1H. Pd's 1H is foricing so you cannt pass it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 I prefer bidding 2♦. It's always safer when I'm at the wheel :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Do I understand this correctly? The play begins top club on my left, then small on my left to a top club on my rigth, then a small club on my right? That appears to be what you are saying, but Free's line, endorsed my many, seems to assume two top clubs on the left then a third club. Anyway, if I understand it correctly the defense seems odd. Is lho really about to ruff? Making him 4-4-3-2? If he does, I don't mind since he was probably getting that fourth spade of his anyway, depending on what the spots are. I pitch a heart. If he ruffs and leads a spade I rise and start on diamonds. If he follows to the club, I am on the board and start on diamonds. I hope to either develop diamonds or set up a crossruff. It's a little hard to count tricks here, but this seems promising to me. The spade spots might matter a lot here, as often they do in a 4-3 fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 I prefer bidding 2♦. It's always safer when I'm at the wheel ;) Since you are also on the wheel, when play 1S,this argument does not count much. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Since I too would open this mish-mosh 1 D (rule of 20) my other criterion is that I have a suitable re-bid. When the auction gets back to me, my choices are 1S and 2D. Since the auction to date has not denied the chance of a 4-4 S fit, I will rebid 1S. Since I bid it and pard passed it, I have no problem with playing 1S doubled. I will also follow the line where I pitch a H and try to make as many trump tricks as I can. Why LHO did not lead a S initially gives me hope for a nice plus score... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 I prefer bidding 2♦. It's always safer when I'm at the wheel ;) Since you are also on the wheel, when play 1S,this argument does not count much. With kind regardsMarlowe ahem.. you're right.. lol. Still, I prefer a 6-1 or 6-2 fit to a 4-3 one. And if pard has 4 spades, he can always put me back into spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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