Wackojack Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 [hv=d=s&v=e&w=s107543hdaqj102caq3&e=saq98ha9d95ck9876]266|100|Scoring: MPBidding:S W N Ep 1♦ 3♥ dble3♠4♠ p 6♠dble p p p Lead 2♠[/hv] My partner would expect me to open 1♠ with 5-5, but I was concerned about my rebid if partner responded 2♥. So I decided to to treat my spades as a 4 card suit and open 1♦. Comments please? When my partner doubled the 3♥ bid, I alerted, then remembering the new EBU ruling before East bid, said "sorry no this is not alertable now". South a young man smiled and said that it depended on partner's hand and I nodded. After the auction finished, I asked North what the 3 spade bid meant. She said that she would have expected it to be a spade suit and a heart fit but in the light of my bidding didn't know. In the light of the double do you still make the odds play of Q♠ or not? I got the impression that South liked the poker aspects of bridge. I did not make the makeable contract. At the time my partner thought it was a good slam and I did not. My approx calcs:Chance of making = Not losing 2 spadesx((losing 1 spadex 0.5)+losing no spades)= (1-3/16)(9x.5/16 + 4/16) = 43% My guess is that the plus of a gift is offset by the minus possibility of a ruff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 I do not understand your system that you are playing. You cannot open 1s and rebid 3d if partner's first response is 2H? Is there a British teaching bridge bidding book that tells you in your system that you must open 1D with this hand? Can you cite the book and page? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 "I do not understand your system that you are playing. You cannot open 1s and rebid 3d if partner's first response is 2H?" If you are playing 2/1 forcing for one round, and 1S-2H-3D is a GF opposite a possible 10 count (do Brits still make 2/1 responses with 9 counts?), some wouldn't want to GF on a 13 count with a void in pd's 5+ card suit. That said, I would open 1S, playing Standard American, and worry about a bad 3NT contract later. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackojack Posted August 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 I do not understand your system that you are playing. You cannot open 1s and rebid 3d if partner's first response is 2H? Is there a British teaching bridge bidding book that tells you in your system that you must open 1D with this hand? Can you cite the book and page? We were playing 5-card major with a 15-17 no trump. (A 2/1 response would normally be 10+). As I said we would normally open 1♠ with 5 diamonds and 5 spades. However, I considered that if I opened 1♠ and got the expected response of 2♥, a rebid of 3♦ does not look attractive. You say I cannot do this, so are you agreeing with me? The text books, I assume, say open 1♠ with 5-5. (Indeed we have agreed that 1♦-1♥-1♠-any-2♠ would show 6 diamonds and 5 spades simply by virtue of diamonds being opened first) But because the spades were very weak and the diamonds strong, I decided rightly or wrongly to treat the hand as though it had 4 spades only. I asked for comments to find out if others would or would not do the same. Your post sheds no light on this for me. I am afraid I do not understand the point you were trying to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 I try and shed light by hopefully asking pertinent questions that lead to more knowledge..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackojack Posted August 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Quote"You cannot open 1s and rebid 3d if partner's first response is 2H?" Sorry Mike I didn't hear the voice inflection revealing the heavy irony in your statement above when I was posting. I just took it as read. Now I know where you are coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 I had opened 1 Spade and had no fear from 2 Heart. But I think, that you must have tools to show this hand, so I always force my pds, that I can rebid 2 Spade after there bid to show the weak hand (11-14 HCPS). So the bidding would be:1 Spade 2 Heart 2 Spade 2 NT 3 Diamond.... But I agree, that horrible things can happen- like a 3 Heart bid instead of 2 NT from pd. I dislike the slam, but I had played the spades in a normal way, trying to have no looser. If that fails, I need the diamond finesse too work.Seems to be slightly more then 50 %, at least before they doubled... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 I stopped in 5♠, and double finessed. I decided that had I been in 6, I would have taken the safety play, but thought that I should try the matchpoints line to try and make as many as possible. They did overcall 4H at my table, and bid 5H over 4S as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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