jrcn50 Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 I need help (SAYC):East (dealer)S 4H 2D A Q 7C A R D 10 9 7 6 3 WestS R 9 6 2H A R V 5D R 10 9 8 3C 1. How do you bid (north and south pass), please [2 cases:a) East opens 2C strong b)East opens 1C natural] ? ThanksJean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 Reposted I need help (SAYC):East (dealer)S 4H 2D A Q 7C A K Q 10 9 7 6 3 WestS K 9 6 2H A K J 5D K 10 9 8 3C 1. How do you bid (north and south pass), please [2 cases:a) East opens 2C strong b)East opens 1C natural] ? ThanksJean 1C 1D4C 4H4N 5H6C Where 4C shows solid C and a D fit, and 4N is RKCB 2C 2D (Waiting)3C 3D4N 5H6C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcn50 Posted November 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 Thanks for your answer, but when you bid 5H (after 4NT RKCB) meaning 2 Keys without Queen trump, then 4NT was asking Aces for Diamond Trump, isn't ? Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poky Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 East (dealer)S 4H 2D A Q 7C A R D 10 9 7 6 3 WestS R 9 6 2H A R V 5D R 10 9 8 3C 1C 1D2H - lowest reverse is usually used to show a GF one-suiter 3H4D - showing support for D 4H - cuebid, fit estabilished4NT - BW for D 5H - 2 of 56C - choice of slams 6D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 Thanks for your answer, but when you bid 5H (after 4NT RKCB) meaning 2 Keys without Queen trump, then 4NT was asking Aces for Diamond Trump, isn't ? Correct, but it matters not on this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 East (dealer)S 4H 2D A Q 7C A K Q 10 9 7 6 3 WestS K 9 6 2H A K J 5D K 10 9 8 3C Some hands are just hard to bid SAYC, that is why so few top pairs play it. :-) Can anyone think of a world class pair other than Bobby Wolff and Dan Morse who play it? I will take a stab at it for SAYC, but first, let me put in a plug for how I bid this playing my way. E W2D 2NT 2D = multi 2D, 2NT = inquiry (hehe)4C 6CPass The multi 2D which is 90% of the time a weak two in either major, but can be a balanced 22.5 to 24 hcp or an acol two bid in a minor with at least 9 tricks and a suit that can play opposite , 2NT is an asking bid and 4C shows an acol 2 bid in clubs (9.5 tricks in clubs, with a suit that has at MOST one loser opposite a singleton). West can provide a likely four tricks, and clearly at least 3, to go along with his partner's promised 9.5 so you are talking 12.5 tricks. IF he had a singleton club, he would try for seven, but here, I think a tame 6C is best. Note, he has the option of a gambling 6NT, right sided, if this was matchpoints. Now, in SAYC, I would suggest... 1C 1D3C 3H5C 6CPass Science isn't everything... :-) Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 East (dealer)S 4H 2D A Q 7C A R D 10 9 7 6 3 WestS R 9 6 2H A R V 5D R 10 9 8 3C Using Vanilla SAYC and East decides to open 2c2c - 3d4n - 5h6d - pass Using Vanilla SAYC and East decides to open 1c1c - 1d4n - 5h6d - pass I can't find the problem..... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 East (dealer)S 4H 2D A Q 7C A R D 10 9 7 6 3 WestS R 9 6 2H A R V 5D R 10 9 8 3C Using Vanilla SAYC and East decides to open 2c2c - 3d4n - 5h6d - pass Using Vanilla SAYC and East decides to open 1c1c - 1d4n - 5h6d - pass I can't find the problem..... :-) i guess the 2C auction makes sense, since 3D promised 5+ cards.. but the 1C auction doesn't track for me.. after 1C : 1D, why insist on a diamond slam with what could be a 7 card fit? just asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben47 Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 Doesn't 1C - 1D promise 5 cards? I never found it useful to bid four cards in diamonds with this auction (except perhaps balanced hands that are too strong for 1C - 3NT). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 Doesn't 1C - 1D promise 5 cards? I never found it useful to bid four cards in diamonds with this auction (except perhaps balanced hands that are too strong for 1C - 3NT). i guess it could, but i've never played that it does... if, after opener's rebid, i reverse into a major (1C:1D ; 1S:2H) *then* it shows 5 diamonds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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