I opened this crap

[sceptic]

[hv=d=s&v=n&n=sjt3hqtd63caqjt64&w=sk8652ha3dqjt5c82&e=sa94h965da7ck9753&s=sq7hkj8742dk9842c]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

West North East South

 

 -     -     -     1♥

 1♠    2♣    Dbl   2♦

 Dbl   2♥    2♠    4♥

 Pass  Pass  Dbl   Pass

 Pass  Pass  

 

I can't play multi so I opened it 1Heart I contemplated opening it 4 hearts and 3 and 2, whats your poison and what do you think of my bidding

[jillybean]

1♥ and 2♦ seems ok, I wouldnt have bid again after that.

[pbleighton]

3H instead of 4. Pass is OK, too.

 

Peter

[paulg]

I think this is a 1♥ opener. I can think of little worse than opening this with a multi!

 

4♥ is too aggressive when partner has only given false preference and could hold 1♥ and 2♦ on this auction.

 

Paul

[P_Marlowe]

I would have passed, but this

is a style issue.

 

Over 2S simply bid 3H, you dont

want to defend, but the Queen of

spades is wasted and you have a

void in partners suit.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[neilkaz]

I would pass with 9 HCP and 1 honor trick, but many will open. It is a style issue but with a doubleton Q of ♠ the hand is just a bit too weak for me to open.

 

However, the 4♥ call is simply bad. The opps have doubled two of your sides bids at the 2 level. Clearly they don't have garbage. The 2 ♠ calls mean that your Q is likely worthless. You have a void in PD's suit and a very min opener.

 

PD didn't jump to 3H so he most likely doesn't have a 3 card limit raise and has only shown that he prefers ♥ to ♦. I'd either compete with 3♥ or pass it around to PD.

 

As can often happen when you open light, the auction gets out of hand. Often, PD expects you to have a bit more and you get set doubled or he doubles the opps and you have a nasty decision to make to pull or sit and both result in disaster.

 

Here it is not your opening that hurt you but your 4♥ call.

[EricK]

You had a minimum hand to begin with. LHO's ♠ bid devalued it as your ♠Q is probably worthless. Partner's ♣ bid devalued it further as it looks like the hands might be a misfit. Despite this, you got lucky and found a fit. There was no need to push your luck with a jump to game!

[mikeh]

I may be revealing my age, but the S hand is not an opening bid for me.

 

The problem with opening these hands, outside of a limited opening bid method such as Precision, is that you are fooling partner, who should be entitled to count on your hand contributing a certain minimum amount of defence, and you have none.

 

Yes, I understand the desire to start getting your suits in, but it's not as if your suits are very good and, most importantly, it is not as if you are automatically barred after starting with a pass. Indeed, there will be many hands on which pass followed by revealing a two-suiter will help partner far more than an original opening bid. In short, I think those who open this (absent a clear agreement with partner that this is an opening bid.. and now you should be announcing this style to the opps) are guilty of the one of the most common of bidding errors: bidding as if bridge were solitaire.

 

Make the hand xx KJ10xxx KQxxx void, and I personally would still pass but I could live with 1♥ and, if the partnership style permitted it (I have one partnership that allows this) I'd open 2♥, if available as a weak two and bid some number of ♦ later if need arose.

 

Having perpetrated an opening bid, wild horses could not get me to bid over 2♠.

 

One thing we know, beyond any reasonable doubt, is that partner has NOT GOT real ♥ support...or else his 2♣ call was a tactical move and he was going to raise ♥ vigorously next time. When LHO has doubled your 4 loser side suit for penalty, we have a VOID in partner's suit and poor (altho long) trump.... bidding over 2♠ shows an unwillingness to trust partner......even if partner can't be trusted, not trusting him only perpetuates the problem. And who knows? Had you passed 2♠, maybe he would have done the right thing.

 

Will partner EVER pass out 2♠ when you can make game on your piece of crap? Can 4♥ really be a good advance save when you hold this hand and partner bid your void?

 

The one think I can say is that your bidding was consistent in your playing solitaire here: poor partner never had a chance :)

 

I am sorry if I offended you with these comments, but you did ask for opinions :)

 

And I admire your postings... you show real promise in that your posts are usually about poor results and how to avoid them, rather than about lucky results.. .so I hope you take my expression of views as what it is intended to be: constructive criticism. I learned a lot about the game in sessions in pub after the game or in someone's hotel room at tournaments, and the language used (re my bids and plays, as well as others) was much like the language I used here.... and it was never meant nor is meant by me as a personal criticism.

[sceptic]

if I wanted praise I would take to my grankids they love me, the answers here are suupoosed to help me, I f I bid like a twat feel free to tell me

[HeartA]

1♥ and 2♦ seems ok, I wouldnt have bid again after that.

agree.

[blackshoe]

Okay, you bid like a twat. :)

 

You have a weak hand suitable for play in two suits. If you preempt, you show a one suited hand (unless you have a way to show this hand type in one bid, which apparently you do not). So if you bid at all, you're lying. B)

 

You decided on 1♥. Okay, fair enough, you paid your table fee (or whatever). Now 2nd seat overcalls, and partner bids 2♣. Oops, you have no clubs. RHO doubles, penalty. Now you're in trouble. You bid 2♦, trying to get out of the hole you dug. Well, at least now partner knows you have 2 suits. LHO doubles, penalty. This is not going well. Partner corrects to 2♥. He probably doesn't like hearts much, but at least he like 'em better than diamonds. I smell a misfit. (If partner had a fit for hearts, he'd either cue bid or jump). You're still in trouble, though. Now RHO bids 2♠, letting you off the hook. Whyinhell would you want to jump back in the hole you dug? Just pass. If you must bid over 2♠, surely 3♠ is enough. Maybe they'll double, and you'll make it. Maybe they'll bid 3♠ and go down. Maybe they'll pass. But you almost certainly are not gonna make 4♥, and they are almost certainly gonna double it.

 

I would have passed originally. Partner still has a chance to bid. Maybe he'll bid a red suit. :)