jdeegan Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sa752hq87dq5ca1083]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♣-P-1♦-1♥1NT[/hv] Playing in a BBO indy. You opened 1♣, your partner responded 1♦ and your RHO overcalled 1♥. Your hand rebid 1NT. How would you describe your hand's second bid (i.e. the 1NT rebid)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 A dead minimum hand, with half stopper (only) AND not good support for pd's suit, I would never freely bid 1NT, which I think is completely out of the question. I voted for "highly aggressive" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Hi, beside the fact, that I have a 4 card spade suit, I think 1NT is normal, playing Individual,it may even be best, since youhave no idea, how partner takesPass, Dbl or 1S. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zasanya Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 I will bid 1 ♠. I do not not think anybody would take me for extra points.I have no quarrel with anybody who bids dbl or 1 nt though.A trifle aggressive but short of insane i think :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Two issues: I would never hide the spade suit. If is didn't have 4 spades, Qxx is not a great stopper, but it IS a stopper. I voted for "pushy". Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 I have played weak NT all my bridge life so this is not an auction I feel confident about, but if Pass here does not show a weak NT, then what does show it, and what does Pass show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 "I have played weak NT all my bridge life so this is not an auction I feel confident about, but if Pass here does not show a weak NT, then what does show it, and what does Pass show?" Pass shows a minimum without a stopper, 1NT shows a minimum with a stopper. Petre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 "I have played weak NT all my bridge life so this is not an auction I feel confident about, but if Pass here does not show a weak NT, then what does show it, and what does Pass show?" Pass shows a minimum without a stopper, 1NT shows a minimum with a stopper. Petre In that case, 1NT is Pushy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 1♠ is OK, unless I am playing Walsh and 1♠ shows an unbalanced hand (and I think it should even in comp). I characterized 1N as pushy. While this hand is a minimum, hasn't my ♥Q improved a little with the overcall? I'm guessing pard tabled something like: xxx, xx, Axxxx, Kxx and you were -200 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Not sure if I agree with how this problem is being framed... You are offering a continum between conservative and insane. All of these choices focus on the level of aggression of the bid. From my perpective, this this isn't the most interesting part of the problem. Personally, I'd pass. However, I think that 1N is reasonable, though it might not work. Change the Qxx in Hearts to Kxx and I think that 1N would be clear cut... What is much more interesting is how people would treat other bids like 1♠ and X. For example, have Walsh tendencies spread far enough that folks would assume that a ♦ advance denies 4 spades unless responder is strong enough to make a second bid? In a similar fashion, how do people assume that partner would interprete a double? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Other: it's a style issue. I can agree on both 1NT and 1♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted August 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=sj9hkjdkj10972cq63&s=sa752hq87dq5ca1082]133|200|Scoring: IMP1♣-P-1♦-1♥1NT-2♥-3NT??-DblP-P-P[/hv] ;) Well, it generally takes two questionalble bids to create a disaster, and this was no exception. In my world, opener's one NT rebid showed something more than a dead minimum - the bidder should have a reason to bid. So, I made the overbid of 3NT which was promptly doubled and went for 1100 when the club king was wrong and partner misplayed the hand. Next time I'll bid a pedestrian 3♦ and double 3♥ if they bid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 It's an indy, don't trust anyone and try to play yourself ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Okay I learned, that most people prefer to bid 1 NT with this lousy opening bid, so I gave up on my idea, that a free bid 1 NT shows more then a minimum. But I still vote insane, because I think that the 4 card spade suit is a much bigger value then the lousy stopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 With the actuall hand, you make 9 tricks if South had got one more D (unless DAxx(x) vs. x) and one less S. D support is indeed an important factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Okay I learned, that most people prefer to bid 1 NT with this lousy opening bid, so I gave up on my idea, that a free bid 1 NT shows more then a minimum. But I still vote insane, because I think that the 4 card spade suit is a much bigger value then the lousy stopper. I hold out hope that some day, your view will be the correct one. There is no need to rush to bid 1NT with balanced minimums here. That is what pass is made for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpm_bg Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Certainly pass , nothing additional as information, even on 1♦, could be weak with nothing, or weak with ♥/♠ interest with ♠Kxxx♥Jxxx♦Qxxx♣x rebid 1nt will be lead to doubt did he need to continue bidding becouse you can hold :♠Axx♥KQx♦A10x♣J109x when is most typicall on 1♦of partner to continue overbidding I will pas, but if i wasnt't , i'll bid 1♠, and to expect to excuse to my partner after game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 I take it you play walsh, otherwise 1NT doesn't make much sense with 1♠ and dbl as more natural and flexible altenatives :) Normally, in these situations, a 12-13 balanced hand passes a 1-level overcall by RHO, while a 14 one volunteers 1NT, so in this hand 1NT rates as "pushy" :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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