Bidding slam

[zasanya]

[hv=d=s&v=n&s=sq107632h8da9753c5]133|100|Scoring: IMP

Bidding:Power Precision

2♦-2♥

3♥-3♠

3NT-?[/hv]

 

Your P opens2♦ 3rd seat after pass from you and your LHO.

2♦=Either Weak 2♥ Or 4-4-4-1 shape 16-24 hcp

Or 26-27 balnced

2♥=Pass or correct

3♥=1-4-4-4 ♠ single 20-24 3♠= how many controls?

3NT= 6 controls 3Aces or 2A and 2K; ♠ K not counted

 

Now in our system 4♦ is invitation ,4♠ is grand slam force asking for Queens and all other calls including 4 Nt passable.

 

What would you bid?

[akhare]

[hv=d=s&v=n&s=sq107632h8da9753c5]133|100|Scoring: IMP

Bidding:Power Precision

2♦-2♥

3♥-3♠

3NT-?[/hv]

 

Your P opens2♦ 3rd seat after pass from you and your LHO.

2♦=Either Weak 2♥ Or 4-4-4-1 shape 16-24 hcp

Or 26-27 balnced

2♥=Pass or correct

3♥=1-4-4-4 ♠ single 20-24 3♠= how many controls?

3NT= 6 controls 3Aces or 2A and 2K; ♠ K not counted

 

Now in our system 4♦ is invitation ,4♠ is grand slam force asking for Queens and all other calls including 4 Nt passable.

 

What would you bid?

Why are we thinking about slam here? We have a maximum of 8 controls (maybe 9 given a stiff K♠), but w/ only 4 trumps to take care of a weak ♠ suit, slam seems mighty optimistic.

 

Give pard:

 

X

AKQX

KQXX

AQXX

 

and even 5♦ doesn't seem that rosy on a trump lead and continuation.

 

I would just settle for 5♦ and hope it makes.

 

Atul

[jtfanclub]

Give pard:

 

X

AKQX

KQXX

AQXX

 

and even 5♦ doesn't seem that rosy on a trump lead and continuation.

That looks automnatic for 5♦ to me, and slightly over 50% for 6♦ if you bid it (though you'll down more than 1 if it fails). 2 spade ruffs, 3 hearts, 5 diamonds, 1 club in 5♦, finesse the club for the 12th trick in 6.

 

What am I missing?

[akhare]

Give pard:

 

X

AKQX

KQXX

AQXX

 

and even 5♦ doesn't seem that rosy on a trump lead and continuation.

That looks automnatic for 5♦ to me, and slightly over 50% for 6♦ if you bid it (though you'll down more than 1 if it fails). 2 spade ruffs, 3 hearts, 5 diamonds, 1 club in 5♦, finesse the club for the 12th trick in 6.

 

What am I missing?

Whoops, I guess I gave pard a too ideal hand. How about this one? In any case, I think that slam is too optimistic IMO.

 

J

AKJX

KQJX

AJXX

[whereagles]

I think I know enough and would bid 6♦ now. Aggressive, but sinceI don't have the means to find out where the remaining high cards are, I'll just take what I think is the percentage action.

[zasanya]

Why are we thinking about slam here? We have a maximum of 8 controls (maybe 9 given a stiff K♠), but w/ only 4 trumps to take care of a weak ♠ suit, slam seems mighty optimistic.

 

Give pard:

 

X

AKQX

KQXX

AQXX

 

and even 5♦ doesn't seem that rosy on a trump lead and continuation.

 

I would just settle for 5♦ and hope it makes.

 

Atul

This in fact was the hand that Partner had with ♦ 10 too.

♦ were 2-2 .♠ were 3-3 :P

My Partner argued that he was unlikely to have ♠ ace and so we had 8 out of remaining 9 controls and I should have bid slam.

I think an optimist here would bid slam a pessimist wouldnt. :D

My reason for not bidding slam here was that my team mates were a pair of school boys being coached by me and we were playing against the defending champions .The oponents on the other table were playing a primitive version of precision and I thought the contract on that table would be some number of ♠; 4 or may be even 5.It was in fact 4♠ but then ♠ were 3-3 .............