ochinko Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 East deals, and opens with a pass, you are South. The bidding goes: (P) - 1♣ - (Dbl) - Rdbl(1♦) - P - (P) - 1♥(P) - ? Are you in a forced position or not? And if you don't feel that you are, do you still bid with: AK6KQ9763J1085 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Yes, it's forcing when preceded by a redouble. I will bid 1NT now and show my hand type. It does not promise a diamond stopper, merely a description of my pattern. Partner can bid 2♦ now if he wants more info. Then I will bid 2♥. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reisig Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 forcing or not ...bid 1NT...then win the postem! What else matters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 yes, it should be forcing. DHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 forcing buph. Which always makes me wonder what a 2♥ call means in the same sequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 100% forcing. I will bid 1NT now. Note that opening 1♦ would have avoided this and many other problems. I guess 2♥ in this position would have to show a fit jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 well there are a lot of excellent players who say it's forcing, so i feel quite alone here... i don't think it can be forcing, since the xx showed 10+ (normally)... it's quite possible that n/s have a half ass heart fit and a combined 22 count... if north wanted to force, 2d was available... but with roland, phil, richie, et al, saying it's forcing, that pretty much settles it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 after a XX a new suit is forcing - period. come on. do u have to q-bid or jump around just to get your partner not to drop you at the one level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 forcing for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jikl Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Forcing and I bid 1NT Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Forcing and I bid 1NT to show my pattern and that doesn't guarantee a stopper on an auction like this where I may be stuck for a bid and min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 well there are a lot of excellent players who say it's forcing, so i feel quite alone here... i don't think it can be forcing, since the xx showed 10+ (normally)... it's quite possible that n/s have a half ass heart fit and a combined 22 count... if north wanted to force, 2d was available... but with roland, phil, richie, et al, saying it's forcing, that pretty much settles it Jimmy, I think you misread the auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Hi, yes 1H is forcing, and so would a direct 1H.In the seq. in question, I would not say, that 1H is game forcing,but it is forcing. My bid: 2D, no clear direction. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 I will bid 1NT now and show my hand type. It does not promise a diamond stopper, merely a description of my pattern. this comes from Roland? :blink: :blink: :blink: *shock* *awe* *faint* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 well there are a lot of excellent players who say it's forcing, so i feel quite alone here... i don't think it can be forcing, since the xx showed 10+ (normally)... it's quite possible that n/s have a half ass heart fit and a combined 22 count... if north wanted to force, 2d was available... but with roland, phil, richie, et al, saying it's forcing, that pretty much settles it Jimmy, I think you misread the auction. maybe i did, but i've always felt that a redouble shows 10+ and tends to deny a fit for partner's suit... it sets up a focing pass auction, forcing until they are doubled or we play the hand... (p) 1C (x) xx(1D) p* (p) 1H** *=i can't double 1D, what do you want to do?**=i can't (or don't want to) x 1D either, i have no spade support to speak of, but i do have 4+ hearts and 10-12 hcp in any case, why would 1H be forcing there? give opener AQJx xxx x KQxxx ... what should he bid? anyway, because of the preponderence of 'forcing' thoughts, from now on i'll play the bid as forcing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 I have the agreement, that XX is forcing bis 2 NT, so 1 ♥ is forcing. But even without ANY agreement, I would still play it as forcing.I had opened 1 Diamond with the North hand and rebid 2 Club now. :) In the given case, I had bid 2 ♦ asking for a stopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Absolute forcing, bid 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 I will bid 1NT now and show my hand type. It does not promise a diamond stopper, merely a description of my pattern. this comes from Roland? :blink: :blink: :blink: *shock* *awe* *faint* Nothing sensational about that. As long as there is room for partner to find out if NT is the right spot, I don't have a problem. What I do not do, however, and what you seem to have misinterpreted, is to jump to 3NT indiscriminately without having a suit covered. AxxxxxAQJxQxx 1♦ (1♠) dble pass1NT That's fine with me because partner, below game, can find out if I am serious about NT. I merely show my pattern, and that's balanced. However, with the following hand I do not jump to 3NT: KAQ1054J94KJ83 1♥ - 1♠2♣ - 2♦ I have a feeling that you might punt 3NT. I don't; I bid 3♦. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willow23 Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 100% forcing...I play redbl as 10+ hcp ..so this would establish the balance of power... In response to the 1♥...I would bid based on the strength og my hand while painting a picture of the hand ..1NT if balanced or a suit if you have one is a winner. Partner has yet to describe his/her hand...That bid should tell the story... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 However, with the following hand I do not jump to 3NT: KAQ1054J94KJ83 1♥ - 1♠2♣ - 2♦ I have a feeling that you might punt 3NT. I don't; I bid 3♦. Actually, the textbook bid is 3♦. With a pet pard I'd certainly try that most of the time. However, with a not-so-hot pard 3NT sure has a couple of priceless virtues....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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