Who Should Bid Differently

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1♥ 1♠

2♠ 4♠

Pass[/hv]

 

How do you assign the blame for this missed slam?

 

Do you have a good standard sequence (or agreement) for bidding this hand?

 

Thanks

[Walddk]

The Garozzo relay should do the trick.

 

1♥ - 1♠

2♠ - 2NT

3♣ - 3♦

3♥ - 3♠

4♦ - 4NT

5♥ - 6♠

p

 

2N = Relay, tell me more. At least invitational.

3♣ = 4-card support, unspecified singleton. A maximum per definition.

3♦ = Where is your singleton?

3♥ = Clubs.

3♠ = Slam interest.

4♦ = Cue bid (honour).

4N = RKCB

5♥ = 2 key cards, no spade queen.

 

You will likely also get to the slam if opener rebids 3♠. Personally, I think the hand is good enough for that.

 

Roland

[han]

1♥, 1♠ and 4♠ seem clear to me. The only bid that can be argued about is 2♠. I think this hand is just about strong enough for 3♠ (16 support points).

 

After 3♠ it should be possible to reach slam. I think that south would cue 4♦, which makes north's hand a lot better. A possible auction might be:

 

1H-1S

3S-4D

4H-4S

5D-6S

 

For me, 4D denies a club control, so north must have a club control to continue cuebidding. I think that 5D suggests club shortness.

[whereagles]

How about "natural"?

 

1♥ 1♠

2♠ 3♦

4♦

 

4♦ = 3 good cards, hearts not worth rebidding. Marks club singleton.

 

Needs pard to be in the same wavelength, though.

[inquiry]

I blame north. 2♠ was an huge underbid.

 

My sequence would start 1♥-1NT (showing 5+ ♠) so I will not bother showing it, but north would show a great hand in response to this... Perhaps with a leap to 4♣ (splinter) or with a forcing ♠ raise (2NT) or an invitiational spade raise (3♠).

[mcphee]

As Roland points out the relay would have worked well. But in any case Responder can not bid 4S. I see no reason to rush to just bid game. Although I am not sure that bidding 3D after 2S is going to help. I also think the N hand is worth 3S becuase the hand contains good trump and control cards,and H should he helpful. If I were to assign blame I would place N more at fault for failing to bid 3S which solves responders problems. But S can not just bid game without trying to show some interest and imagination.

[luke warm]

maybe north is too strong for 2S, but i think south is too strong for 4S... i think 4C would make south think 'slam'

[hrothgar]

I'd blame East / West who were unpleasant enough not to bid with a 9 card club fit and the AKQJT in that suit. The key to finding this 27 point slam is recognizing that all of the 27 points (down to the Jack of Diamonds) are pulling full weight. This might atually be easier if the opponents show club strength.

 

I think that there are a number of bids that didn't work out that well.

 

North is a bit heavy for the 2♠ raise

South could have investigated slam rather than bashing to 4♠

 

However, I wouldn't get too worked up about either bid.

 

Playing standard methods you don't have many options to North's 2♠ raise...

(I think that 3♠ is a dreadful overbid)

 

From South's perspective, North could have been sitting on

 

♠ KJx

♥ AKxxx

♦ xx

♣ Qxx

 

For what its worth, I think that these questions are spoiled somewhat when folks see both hands before recommending "obvious" bids...

[kenrexford]

Assuming the 2S simple raise, South can and probably should stab at this with a 3♦ call. The way I play, 2NT first is the only auction where 3NT is playable.

 

After 3♦, North clearly can accept a game try. With club control and this monster, 3NT (Serious, "in case") seems obvious. Slam is now hard to miss.

[Walddk]

From South's perspective, North could have been sitting on

 

♠ KJx

♥ AKxxx

♦ xx

♣ Qxx

The Garozzo 2NT relay will take care of that hand too:

 

1♥ - 1♠

2♠ - 2NT

3♦*

 

* 3-card support, minimum.

 

South has heard enough and will sign off in 4♠.

 

Roland

[helene_t]

If you play a 15-17 1NT, I wouldn't blame anyone.

 

Playing a 12-14 1NT, 2♠ implies extras in terms of either points or distribution, so if responder has a way to locate the club singleton, slam should be reached.

[han]

I think that in the long run, bidding 4♠ over 2♠ with the south hand is best. North shouldn't have such a good hand, so south shouldn't have slam interest.

 

I do agree that the Garozzo relay (or whatever variation you play) is the best way to investigate slam.

[inquiry]

Playing standard methods you don't have many options to North's 2♠ raise...

(I think that 3♠ is a dreadful overbid)

 

From South's perspective, North could have been sitting on

 

♠ KJx

♥ AKxxx

♦ xx

♣ Qxx

 

For what its worth, I think that these questions are spoiled somewhat when folks see both hands before recommending "obvious" bids...

Richard, you are exactly correct on one point, and oddly totally wrong on another.

 

From North's perspective, south COULD have the dreadful hand you showed for 2♠, (or even slightly worse perhaps, see below). But then this IS the problem with the simple 2♠ range if, as you say, 3♠ with this "monster" south (compared to the hand you showed) is not allowed.

 

Leaving on the sideline the Kaplan Inversion (where 1H-1NT shows 5+ spades), even after 1H-1S, opener needs ways to seperate "good raises" from the crap hand you showed, even in standard. Coming to your rescue is bids like Gazzilli or some form of forcing raise.

 

However, even without those (which I have both), this south hand is wonderful in support of spades. It has a ZAR count of 34 (with fit points).. .that is, 13 hcp, 4 control points, 13 distributional points, and 4 fit points = 34 zar points. Now, no matter what you think of ZAR points, this is much better hand than the 13 hcp it appears to be. ZAR points suggest it is TWO FULL levels better than a minimum openeing bid with a four card spade suit (which only needs 25 ZAR points). So 3♠ is hardly a "dreadful overbid." In fact, the way I play, the jump to 3♠ on a silent auction like this shows 29 to 32 ZARS, so in fact, 3♠ is a tiny underbid. This is probably why, for instance, some suggest a jump to 4♠. Perhaps 29 ZARS is too light for the jump to 3♠ for you and it needs to be stretched a little bit, but if you but the lower limit to 30, or 31, even 32, this hand is worth significantly more than any of those. In fact, 3♠ is a GREAT bid for this hand if nothing else in your methods is suitable (gazzilli, splinter, etc).

 

As for this hand, playing 1H-1S-2S, south has to have a great imagination to envision slam. Heck, give partner, S-KJxxx H-KJTxx D-Kx C-JTX for instance, and they take 3♣ and a ♥ and you can not even make 4♠.

[mike777]

Very tough hand, 3S by North does seem a bit much when 1s could be on almost nothing.

Axxx...x....xxxx....xxxx

 

This feels pretty double dummy looking at both hands but....

 

1H=1S

2S=3D

3H=4D

4NT=ETC...

 

3D=Assume long suit game try but can be advanced cue bid. LTC seems to be (24-7-6)=for only 11 tricks but close enough for slam try?

 

3H= cuebid with D and H help.

 

4D=slam try, good D, looking for club help

 

4NT=I got stiff club and as usual for me jump into rkc as opposed to keep cuebidding.

[hrothgar]

From North's perspective, south COULD have the dreadful hand you showed for 2♠, (or even slightly worse perhaps, see below). But then this IS the problem with the simple 2♠ range if, as you say, 3♠ with this "monster" south (compared to the hand you showed) is not allowed.

And what's the maximum strength for that 3♠ rebid? What do you do with a real reverse and 4=5=2=2 shape? (Or, for that matter, a 4=5=1=3 with a stiff Ace or King?)

 

You and Roland have already noted that a well oiled partnership is able to employ a lot of science after a simple low-level auction like 1m - 1M - 2M (or, for that matter, 1♥ - 1♠ - 2♥). You don't have the same range of options following a 3♠ rebid.

 

Given the choice of a wide ranging 2♠ rebid compared to a wide ranging 3♠ rebid, it seems pretty clear to make sure that 3♠ is tightly defined.

[inquiry]

And what's the maximum strength for that 3♠ rebid? What do you do with a real reverse and 4=5=2=2 shape? (Or, for that matter, a 4=5=1=3 with a stiff Ace or King?)

 

You and Roland have already noted that a well oiled partnership is able to employ a lot of science after a simple low-level auction like 1m - 1M - 2M (or, for that matter, 1♥ - 1♠ - 2♥). You don't have the same range of options following a 3♠ rebid.

 

Given the choice of a wide ranging 2♠ rebid compared to a wide ranging 3♠ rebid, it seems pretty clear to make sure that 3♠ is tightly defined.

Well, I told you my maximum range for a 3♠ bid is 29 to 32 ZARS, that is a king (which is four ZAR points). Is that narrow enough for you? And if it matters, I require a good 29 ZAR for the bid so it is actually closer to 30-32, which is less than a king (good 29 is hand with 10's and nine's, or AJ or AQ combinations). So the actual range is "just less than a king". Is your 3♠ rebid as wide pr wider than a King? I suspect your 3♠ rebid is a lot less "tight" than mine.

[hrothgar]

I find it much easier to work with example hands rather than using an external metric like Zar points.

 

Any chance that you could provide some representative examples of maximum and minimum 3♠ advances for both 4=5=2=2 and 4=5=31 shapes...

 

Also, assume that this is a typical 3♠ advance... (Therefore if you have a King more you can't bid 3♠).

What do you do with all the strong hands?

 

I suspect that you have yet another gimmick - like an artificial 2NT advance - that you use to handle the strong hands. (There's nothing wrong with this. I'm sure that its a quite nice system.) However, I think that its dangerous to assume that all the inferences from your little eccentricities necessarily hold true.

[pclayton]

Similar to Garozzo relay:

 

1♥ - 1♠

2♠ - 2N

4♣...

 

2N is a forcing probe and 4♣ shows 4 trump and a s/v club. Slam should be reached after this start.

 

3♠ would be an overbid with the N hand. Most of us would respond 1♠ on: Axxx, xx, xxx, xxxx and 3♠ is too high.

[mikeh]

Hands in which both partners are maximum for their calls are the toughest. Such hands readily lend themselves to ex post facto reasoning: North could/should have bid 3♠ and South could/should have made a slam try.

 

Clearly, science would help... using 2N as a relay (whether Garozzo or Phil's form, which sounds close (on this hand anyway) to what I play)... if South can discover that North has a maximum 4 card raise with a stiff ♣, he cannot help but bid slam.

 

I suspect that such science was unavailable, in which case the problem is far, far tougher to solve.

 

I think that 3♠ by South would be optimistic, and I have no problem with the heavy 2♠ bid. Given the North hand as a problem at round 2, I'd score 2♠ 100 and 3♠ 80.

 

As for South, I do think that 4♠ was the worst single call of the auction, but I don't want to overstate my criticism. While I think that S is worth a try (3♦), I can see why South might not want to clue the opps into the correct lead against game.

 

Besides which, it is far from clear how the auction would/should develop after 3♦.

 

1♥ 1♠

2♠ 3♦

3♥ 4♠

?

 

3♥ intended as a cue-bid, ostensibly rejecting the 3♦ game try but showing a good hand with ♥ values, intending to raise a 3♠ signoff to game.

 

4♠ unfortunately does not confirm that 3♦ was a cue bid... it merely shows a hand that wants to be in game opposite a max with decent ♥. So now North has an extremely tenuous 5♣ available... which would work but seems unjustifiable.

 

1♥ 1♠

2♠ 3♦

4♣

 

this may work, but for me 4♣ shows some high cards... say 4=5=1=3 with AJx, so if it works, it does so for the wrong reasons :P

 

Thus, while the 4♠ call gets my vote as the worst call of the auction, I do not think that there is an easy path to slam regardless of what South bids over 2♠.

 

The blame goes to the system: for not having 2N available as a relay.

 

This is not surprising: if these hands were not difficult to bid in standard methods, relays would not have become popular in practiced partnerships.

[whereagles]

The blame goes to the system: for not having 2N available as a relay.

Hum.. I wouldn't be so harsh on the system, though I do agree that things get considerably easier after

 

1♥ 1♠

2♠ 2NT

4♣

 

2NT = relay

4♣ = splinter, a max within the 11-14 min hand, confirms 4-card spade support

[awm]

The relay helps on the slam hands, but I'm not sure how you get to the right spot when responder holds only a game-invitational hand and opener has three trumps. Seems like you're stuck playing either 3NT on light values or 3♠ on a 4-3 fit and two balanced hands......

 

In any case, Elianna and I should do just find on these hands without a relay:

 

1♥ - 1♠

2♠ - 3♦

3♠ - 3NT

4♣

 

3♦ = natural and game forcing

3♠ = 4-card support for spade, at least a decent hand for slam

3NT = non-serious

4♣ = cuebid, really good hand (esp. after partner's diam call)

 

This is also a nice hand for my preferred artificial methods after a natural 1♥-1♠ auction, which include 2♦ as a "good spade raise."

[inquiry]

I find it much easier to work with example hands rather than using an external metric like Zar points. 

 

Any chance that you could provide some representative examples of maximum and minimum 3♠ advances for both 4=5=2=2 and 4=5=31 shapes...

 

Also, assume that this is a typical 3♠ advance... (Therefore if you have a King more you can't bid 3♠).  What do you do with all the strong hands?

 

I suspect that you have yet another gimmick (like an artificial 2NT advance) that you use to handle the strong hands.  (There's nothing wrong with this.  I'm sure that its a quite nice system.)  However, I think that its dangerous to assume that all the inferences from your little eccentricities necessarily hold true.

Well, you don't have to assume that I use 2NT with the stronger hand, I have said that not once but TWICE before your post in this very thread. I also have gazilli (well ritong 2C) in the bag of tricks too to cover the strong NT hands that others use 2NT rebids for.

 

As for teaching you how to bid, not sure I am up to it (showing a lot of hands). Here is the gist...

 

With 4-5-13 or 4-5-40, opener needs very little extra to jump to 3S. First, opener gets at least two bonus points for the singleton (and 3 for a void). So if he opened with 26 hcp, the three bonus for a void already gets him to 29 (of course we need a good 29), or 28 with a singleton (opener can open 1H wiht 25 since he has spades). A spade honor or two, with shortness is generally enough. With 4522, minor suit honors (queens and jacks) are dicount. And there is precious little distributional points added (one). So the HCP requirement for the raise with 5422 is higher than with 4531.

 

Here are some example hands... in no particular order.... In each case the auction will start 1H-1S (note, with Five spades, I respond 1NT, not 1S, and over 1S which is 0 to 4 spades, I don't bid like this. We will assume for this thread, however, you used these methods without "kaplan inversion".)

 

IMP-50 [space] [space] [space]34671 [space] [space] [space] Dlr: North 
Board 1937 [space]S AQ42 [space] [space] [space]Vul: E-W
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H T9865 [space] [space] 
radu1976 [space] [space]D K [space] [space] [space] [space] alonella [space] [space]
S J93 [space] [space] [space] C A75 [space] [space] [space] S 7 [space] [space] [space] [space] 
H J42 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] H KQ7 [space] [space] [space] 
D AQ82 [space] [space] [space]JaneO [space] [space] [space] D J654 [space] [space] [space]
C JT4 [space] [space] [space] S KT865 [space] [space] C KQ962 [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H A3 [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D T973 [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C 83 [space] [space] [space] [space]

Over 1S north discounts the value of the stiff diamond king (or count it as 1 or 2 pts, your choice). He has 13 distributional, 10 hcp (or add for K), 2 control, for 25.. can open iwth 4 spades. Over 1S, he gets 2 bonus for AQ and 2 for stiff king. 25+4 = 29 and that is counting 0 value for the king. This is a minimum 3[sp] rebid. After which game is rountinely bid (south having 23 of his own... 

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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 4S [space] [space]S CJ [space]JaneO [space] [space]10 [space] 420 [space] 5.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 4S [space] [space]S S3 [space]blacksae 10 [space] 420 [space] 5.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 4S [space] [space]S CJ [space]bara api 10 [space] 420 [space] 5.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 4S [space] [space]S CJ [space]cato_er [space]10 [space] 420 [space] 5.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 3CX [space] W DK [space]rojen [space] [space] 8 [space] 200 [space] 0.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 3C [space] [space]E HA [space]bibicu [space] [space]7 [space] 200 [space] 0.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 2S [space] [space]S CJ [space]Lnp [space] [space] [space]10 [space] 170 [space]-0.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 3S [space] [space]S CJ [space]gipa [space] [space] 10 [space] 170 [space]-0.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 2S [space] [space]S C4 [space]mehary [space] 10 [space] 170 [space]-0.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 2S [space] [space]S DA [space]ace1987 [space]10 [space] 170 [space]-0.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 3S [space] [space]S CJ [space]ruffus [space] 10 [space] 170 [space]-0.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 2S [space] [space]S CJ [space]ponella [space]10 [space] 170 [space]-0.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 3S [space] [space]S CJ [space]m2k5b7 [space] [space]9 [space] 140 [space]-1.47 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 4S [space] [space]S CJ [space]kartagina 9 [space] -50 [space]-6.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 4S [space] [space]S CJ [space]deltaq [space] [space]9 [space] -50 [space]-6.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 4SX [space] N HQ [space]Junio [space] [space] 9 [space]-100 [space]-7.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
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IMP-41 [space] [space] [space]Andrei_16 [space] Dlr: West [space]
Board 45935 S AQJ6 [space] [space] [space]Vul: E-W
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H KJ764 [space] [space] 
xanthe6 [space] [space] D 65 [space] [space] [space] [space]krtl [space] [space] [space] [space]
S 74 [space] [space] [space] [space]C A2 [space] [space] [space] [space]S T [space] [space] [space] [space] 
H AQ983 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] H T52 [space] [space] [space] 
D 82 [space] [space] [space] [space]bibanu [space] [space] [space]D AJT973 [space] [space]
C KJ54 [space] [space] [space]S K98532 [space] [space]C Q87 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D KQ4 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C T963 [space] [space] [space]

Even with 4522, north has too much for jump to 3[sp]. 15 hcp, 12 dis points, 5 control points, 2 points for two spade honors and a distributional point for the doubleton (some add two since there are two). This is 34 Zar points, I would go through 2NT (forcing raise with 4 trumps, but only forcing to 3[sp]. 

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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 6S [space] [space]E S7 [space]bibanu [space] 11 [space]-100 -12.00 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 1N [space] [space]E C4 [space]fok [space] [space] [space] 8 [space] 120 [space]-9.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 3S [space] [space]E D2 [space]grzywa [space] 11 [space] 200 [space]-7.93 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 4S [space] [space]E D8 [space]poulerik 10 [space] 620 [space] 1.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 4S [space] [space]E S4 [space]poiuy [space] [space]10 [space] 620 [space] 1.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 4S [space] [space]E D8 [space]jpl64 [space] [space]11 [space] 650 [space] 2.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 4S [space] [space]E D2 [space]alparslan11 [space] 650 [space] 2.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 4S [space] [space]E C4 [space]isaac39 [space]11 [space] 650 [space] 2.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 4S [space] [space]E D8 [space]jackibabe11 [space] 650 [space] 2.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 4S [space] [space]E D8 [space]lebron [space] 11 [space] 650 [space] 2.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 4S [space] [space]E HA [space]apask [space] [space]11 [space] 650 [space] 2.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 4S [space] [space]E D8 [space]mahi [space] [space] 11 [space] 650 [space] 2.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 4S [space] [space]E D8 [space]Norbert7711 [space] 650 [space] 2.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 4S [space] [space]E D2 [space]baldnblon12 [space] 680 [space] 3.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 4S [space] [space]E D8 [space]metin200512 [space] 680 [space] 3.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 4S [space] [space]E D2 [space]ismini [space] 12 [space] 680 [space] 3.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
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IMP-42 [space] [space] [space]marisa480 [space] Dlr: West [space]
Board 54812 S AJ62 [space] [space] [space]Vul: None
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H AJT [space] [space] [space] 
MimmoGal [space] [space]D QJ3 [space] [space] [space] mishoo_10 [space] 
S T7 [space] [space] [space] [space]C 984 [space] [space] [space] S KQ5 [space] [space] [space] 
H 9875 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H 3 [space] [space] [space] [space] 
D T8 [space] [space] [space] [space]bibetto [space] [space] D 976542 [space] [space]
C AKQT6 [space] [space] S 9843 [space] [space] [space]C 753 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H KQ642 [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D AK [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C J2 [space] [space] [space] [space]

This one is just below a jump to 3S. South can climb to 29 ZAR points in support of spades, with Club JACK disregarded. But this is not a good 29, the AK in the short suit is a minus, and the weak spades is another minus, and no heart intermedites is another. 2S is the limit of the raise. [space]But to be fair, north will have raised hearts to start off with I think. 
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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 4H [space] [space]W CA [space]bibetto [space] 8 [space]-100 [space]-2.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 4H [space] [space]W CA [space]ShlK [space] [space] [space]8 [space]-100 [space]-2.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 4H [space] [space]W CA [space]lionlupo [space]8 [space]-100 [space]-2.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 4H [space] [space]W CA [space]odemir [space] [space]8 [space]-100 [space]-2.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 4H [space] [space]W CA [space]Bial02 [space] [space]8 [space]-100 [space]-2.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 4H [space] [space]W CA [space]BlondixAle8 [space]-100 [space]-2.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 4H [space] [space]W CK [space]laertes [space] 8 [space]-100 [space]-2.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 4H [space] [space]W CA [space]rolfevers 8 [space]-100 [space]-2.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 3H [space] [space]W CA [space]gital [space] [space] 8 [space] -50 [space]-0.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 4H [space] [space]W CA [space]melgold [space] 9 [space] -50 [space]-0.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 4H [space] [space]W CA [space]ceafa [space] [space] 9 [space] -50 [space]-0.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 3N [space] [space]E D5 [space]missua [space] [space]8 [space] -50 [space]-0.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 4S [space] [space]E H3 [space]corovi [space] [space]9 [space] -50 [space]-0.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 2N [space] [space]E D5 [space]Bob Wade [space]9 [space] 150 [space] 4.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 2N [space] [space]E SK [space]FotitoBg 11 [space] 210 [space] 5.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 3N [space] [space]E D5 [space]senol05 [space] 9 [space] 400 [space] 9.93 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]




IMP-43 [space] [space] [space]Just__Judy [space]Dlr: South 
Board 27912 S KQ54 [space] [space] [space]Vul: E-W
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H KQ874 [space] [space] 
dpar4 [space] [space] [space] D T2 [space] [space] [space] [space]gabel59 [space] [space] 
S J96 [space] [space] [space] C K4 [space] [space] [space] [space]S 32 [space] [space] [space] [space]
H JT9 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] H A652 [space] [space] [space]
D AQ75 [space] [space] [space]cool nick [space] D 98 [space] [space] [space] [space]
C A76 [space] [space] [space] S AT87 [space] [space] [space]C Q9852 [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H 3 [space] [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D KJ643 [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C JT3 [space] [space] [space] 

A boarderline hand. North starts with 28 ZARS (counting club King full 4 points). And in support of spades picks up 2 for the spade honors and 1 for the two doubletons and 4th spade. That comes to 31. Even subtract one for Kx of clubs, this is 30, so I would jump to 3S.
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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 2S [space] [space]N D5 [space]cool nick10 [space] 170 [space] 4.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 3S [space] [space]S D9 [space]toma_st [space]10 [space] 170 [space] 4.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 1N [space] [space]N D5 [space]Sir_Hasan 9 [space] 150 [space] 3.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 2S [space] [space]N S6 [space]tudoricaus9 [space] 140 [space] 3.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 3S [space] [space]N S6 [space]syilmaz20 9 [space] 140 [space] 3.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 2S [space] [space]N HJ [space]juduha [space] [space]9 [space] 140 [space] 3.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 1N [space] [space]N S6 [space]muratmit [space]7 [space] [space]90 [space] 2.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 3S [space] [space]N CA [space]welborn [space] 8 [space] -50 [space]-1.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 4S [space] [space]N HJ [space]korfez80 [space]9 [space] -50 [space]-1.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 4S [space] [space]N HJ [space]rma [space] [space] [space] 9 [space] -50 [space]-1.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 3S [space] [space]N S6 [space]bru54 [space] [space] 8 [space] -50 [space]-1.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 4S [space] [space]N CA [space]sneis [space] [space] 8 [space]-100 [space]-3.00 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 4S [space] [space]S D9 [space]iboege [space] [space]8 [space]-100 [space]-3.00 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 3N [space] [space]S C5 [space]aga 17 [space] [space]6 [space]-150 [space]-4.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 3N [space] [space]N CA [space]Mastval [space] 6 [space]-150 [space]-4.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 4S [space] [space]S D8 [space]pedro77 [space] 7 [space]-150 [space]-4.40 [space] [space]

MP-44 [space] [space] [space]zigieh1 [space] [space] Dlr: East [space]
Board 63511 S T654 [space] [space] [space]Vul: N-S
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H KQ985 [space] [space] 
paulusp [space] [space] D AJ [space] [space] [space] [space]ressam55 [space] [space]
S 98 [space] [space] [space] [space]C Q7 [space] [space] [space] [space]S 732 [space] [space] [space] 
H A7643 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] H [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] 
D T [space] [space] [space] [space] Icke [space] [space] [space] [space]D 876432 [space] [space]
C AT853 [space] [space] S AKQJ [space] [space] [space]C J942 [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H JT2 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D KQ95 [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C K6 [space] [space] [space] [space]

2S is enough with north, everyone can agree. 
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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 6SX [space] W HA [space]Icke [space] [space] 10 [space]-300 [space]-8.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 6SX [space] W CA [space]ugur07 [space] 10 [space]-300 [space]-8.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 6SX [space] W CA [space]JohnFran 10 [space]-300 [space]-8.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 6HX [space] E D6 [space]coolcoo [space]10 [space]-300 [space]-8.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 5S [space] [space]W HA [space]quico [space] [space] 9 [space]-100 [space]-4.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 5D [space] [space]E C2 [space]mpeker [space] [space]9 [space]-100 [space]-4.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 5S [space] [space]W DT [space]tinouch [space]10 [space] -50 [space]-4.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 5H [space] [space]E D7 [space]K 2 [space] [space] [space]10 [space] -50 [space]-4.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 4H [space] [space]E D8 [space]pinio_dk 11 [space] 450 [space] 5.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 4S [space] [space]W DT [space]hspemm [space] 11 [space] 450 [space] 5.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 5S [space] [space]W DT [space]flipa [space] [space]11 [space] 450 [space] 5.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 5H [space] [space]E D8 [space]JNiaz [space] [space]12 [space] 480 [space] 6.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 5H [space] [space]E D8 [space]maxxxs [space] 12 [space] 480 [space] 6.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 5S [space] [space]W DT [space]Chivas12 12 [space] 480 [space] 6.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 5S [space] [space]W DT [space]evesham [space]12 [space] 480 [space] 6.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 4HX [space] E D6 [space]gsaintmax10 [space] 590 [space] 8.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]


IMP-48 [space] [space] [space]de groo [space] [space] Dlr: West [space]
Board 46522 S K983 [space] [space] [space]Vul: N-S
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H KQ853 [space] [space] 
drmekici [space] [space]D Q5 [space] [space] [space] [space]onec [space] [space] [space] [space]
S Q2 [space] [space] [space] [space]C K7 [space] [space] [space] [space]S T54 [space] [space] [space] 
H AT [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H 976 [space] [space] [space] 
D A8432 [space] [space] rusec [space] [space] [space] D KJ9 [space] [space] [space] 
C A942 [space] [space] [space]S AJ76 [space] [space] [space]C QJ85 [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H J42 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D T76 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C T63 [space] [space] [space] 

2S is enough again, all agree. 
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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 1N [space] [space]E D2 [space]rusec [space] [space] 4 [space]-150 [space]-6.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 3C [space] [space]S DQ [space]ceylin [space] 10 [space]-130 [space]-5.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 3H [space] [space]W DK [space]afio [space] [space] [space]7 [space]-100 [space]-4.80 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 1N [space] [space]S S3 [space]Calon 64 [space]7 [space] -90 [space]-4.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 4C [space] [space]N H2 [space]avalon 7 [space]9 [space] 100 [space] 0.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 3N [space] [space]S H3 [space]Miklagaard8 [space] 100 [space] 0.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 2H [space] [space]W H6 [space]ebe65 [space] [space] 8 [space] 110 [space] 0.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 2H [space] [space]W D9 [space]weedy [space] [space] 8 [space] 110 [space] 0.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 2H [space] [space]W H6 [space]wicht [space] [space] 8 [space] 110 [space] 0.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 2H [space] [space]W C5 [space]ober [space] [space] [space]8 [space] 110 [space] 0.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 2S [space] [space]E C9 [space]aslanbey [space]9 [space] 140 [space] 1.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 2H [space] [space]W DK [space]lorislod [space]9 [space] 140 [space] 1.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 2H [space] [space]W CQ [space]Adnan54 [space] 9 [space] 140 [space] 1.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 2S [space] [space]E HA [space]Monbello 10 [space] 170 [space] 2.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 5CX [space] N H2 [space]KRUMM [space] [space]10 [space] 200 [space] 3.00 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 2SX [space] E HA [space]oakoakoak10 [space] 670 [space]11.47 [space] [space] [space] [space] 

IMP-49 [space] [space] [space]antra [space] [space] [space] Dlr: East [space]
Board 43207 S QT94 [space] [space] [space]Vul: N-S
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H KQT83 [space] [space] 
Tony46 [space] [space] [space]D A5 [space] [space] [space] [space]radiosa [space] [space] 
S K32 [space] [space] [space] C K8 [space] [space] [space] [space]S 8 [space] [space] [space] [space] 
H A6 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H 9752 [space] [space] [space]
D KT9 [space] [space] [space] stefanobia [space]D J8764 [space] [space] 
C AQ942 [space] [space] S AJ765 [space] [space] C J63 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H J4 [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D Q32 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C T75 [space] [space] [space] 

North has nice hand, 29 BEFORE partner bids spades, gets two for spade honors, one for support, this is a maximum 3S raise. Any stronger and I go through 2NT. 
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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 4S [space] [space]W HA [space]stefanobia9 [space] -50 [space]-5.60 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 4S [space] [space]E D4 [space]HarryNL [space] 9 [space] -50 [space]-5.60 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 4S [space] [space]W DT [space]galgalon [space]9 [space] -50 [space]-5.60 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 4S [space] [space]W HA [space]jawak [space] [space] 9 [space] -50 [space]-5.60 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 3S [space] [space]W D9 [space]hodac [space] [space] 9 [space] 140 [space]-0.67 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 2S [space] [space]W HA [space]kpbaya12 10 [space] 170 [space] 0.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 3S [space] [space]W HA [space]pogi9999 10 [space] 170 [space] 0.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 2S [space] [space]W D9 [space]sim2005 [space]10 [space] 170 [space] 0.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 2S [space] [space]W S2 [space]xyz27 [space] [space]10 [space] 170 [space] 0.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 2S [space] [space]W HA [space]vasy [space] [space] 10 [space] 170 [space] 0.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 3S [space] [space]W HA [space]piefret [space]10 [space] 170 [space] 0.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 2S [space] [space]W HA [space]patrick2410 [space] 170 [space] 0.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 2S [space] [space]W DT [space]Marydee [space]10 [space] 170 [space] 0.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 4S [space] [space]W HA [space]minnie1 [space]10 [space] 420 [space] 6.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 4S [space] [space]W D9 [space]merly [space] [space]10 [space] 420 [space] 6.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 2N [space] [space]N H8 [space]ahyar [space] [space] 3 [space] 500 [space] 8.00 [space] [space] [space] [space] 

IMP-49 [space] [space] [space]grapador [space] [space]Dlr: South 
Board 39312 S AK54 [space] [space] [space]Vul: E-W
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H KJ874 [space] [space] 
pancha [space] [space] [space]D 94 [space] [space] [space] [space]bompi [space] [space] [space] 
S 86 [space] [space] [space] [space]C 32 [space] [space] [space] [space]S J3 [space] [space] [space] [space]
H 963 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] H A2 [space] [space] [space] [space]
D 753 [space] [space] [space] talgo [space] [space] [space] D Q82 [space] [space] [space] 
C AKJ84 [space] [space] S QT972 [space] [space] C QT9765 [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H QT5 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D AKJT6 [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] 

This one climbs to 30 ZARS in support of spades (11 hcp, 4 control, 12 distributional, two for AK of spades in support, and one for the two doubletons (again, some add two for that). This is 30 ZARS. Makes slam sort of easy to bid? 

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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 6S [space] [space]N CA [space]talgo [space] [space]12 [space] 980 [space] 9.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 6H [space] [space]S CT [space]cormorant12 [space] 980 [space] 9.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 6S [space] [space]N CK [space]0111111 [space]12 [space] 980 [space] 9.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 5SX [space] N CA [space]julio [space] [space]12 [space] 750 [space] 4.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 4S [space] [space]N CA [space]jym [space] [space] [space]12 [space] 480 [space]-2.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 4H [space] [space]S SJ [space]crazycube12 [space] 480 [space]-2.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 5S [space] [space]N CA [space]mnc150 [space] 12 [space] 480 [space]-2.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 5S [space] [space]N CK [space]drouot [space] 12 [space] 480 [space]-2.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 4S [space] [space]N CA [space]tumtrah [space]12 [space] 480 [space]-2.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 4S [space] [space]N CA [space]sanpas [space] 12 [space] 480 [space]-2.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 4S [space] [space]N CK [space]Gabry76 [space]12 [space] 480 [space]-2.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 5S [space] [space]S CT [space]cengiz10112 [space] 480 [space]-2.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 4S [space] [space]N CA [space]bridge_ve12 [space] 480 [space]-2.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 4S [space] [space]N CA [space]alpharus 12 [space] 480 [space]-2.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 4S [space] [space]N CA [space]sarik [space] [space]11 [space] 450 [space]-3.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 4H [space] [space]S SJ [space]Susyl [space] [space]11 [space] 450 [space]-3.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] 

IMP-49 [space] [space] [space]Gadea [space] [space] [space] Dlr: South 
Board 12182 S AJ73 [space] [space] [space]Vul: None
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H KJT52 [space] [space] 
vali53 [space] [space] [space]D K5 [space] [space] [space] [space]bridgefan4 [space]
S 96 [space] [space] [space] [space]C J7 [space] [space] [space] [space]S T54 [space] [space] [space] 
H A843 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H 97 [space] [space] [space] [space]
D AJ9 [space] [space] [space] Mar33 [space] [space] [space] D QT86 [space] [space] [space]
C Q532 [space] [space] [space]S KQ82 [space] [space] [space]C T986 [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H Q6 [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D 7432 [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C AK4 [space] [space] [space] 

12 distributional, 13 hcp (CJ = 0), 4 Control = 29 ZARS. When partner bids spades, you get up valuation of 3. [space]This is a 3S rebid. Missing two aces, slam is easliy avoided. 

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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 4SX [space] N D9 [space]Mar33 [space] [space]12 [space] 790 [space] 8.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 4S [space] [space]N S9 [space]wyz33221112 [space] 480 [space] 0.93 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 3N [space] [space]N H3 [space]Carol77 [space]11 [space] 460 [space]-0.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 5S [space] [space]N S9 [space]funfellow11 [space] 450 [space]-0.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 4S [space] [space]N C2 [space]vsomb [space] [space]11 [space] 450 [space]-0.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 4S [space] [space]N D9 [space]milu3333 11 [space] 450 [space]-0.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 4S [space] [space]N C2 [space]Jodla [space] [space]11 [space] 450 [space]-0.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 4S [space] [space]N S6 [space]TRAKS [space] [space]11 [space] 450 [space]-0.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 4S [space] [space]N C2 [space]Gracefric11 [space] 450 [space]-0.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 4S [space] [space]N S6 [space]alveris [space]11 [space] 450 [space]-0.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 4S [space] [space]N DA [space]cater6 [space] 11 [space] 450 [space]-0.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 4S [space] [space]N C5 [space]jeanmiche11 [space] 450 [space]-0.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 4S [space] [space]S D8 [space]hmchaterj11 [space] 450 [space]-0.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 4S [space] [space]N C2 [space]entoinett11 [space] 450 [space]-0.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 4S [space] [space]N S9 [space]bennur [space] 10 [space] 420 [space]-1.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 1N [space] [space]N C3 [space]apsimo [space] 10 [space] 180 [space]-7.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] 

IMP-42 [space] [space] [space]viking1 [space] [space] Dlr: North 
Board 8948 [space]S 8 [space] [space] [space] [space] Vul: N-S
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H QT542 [space] [space] 
solbakken [space] D J863 [space] [space] [space]pakel30 [space] [space] 
S K543 [space] [space] [space]C AJ3 [space] [space] [space] S AT96 [space] [space] [space]
H 6 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] H KJ983 [space] [space] 
D KQ9 [space] [space] [space] denny73 [space] [space] D A7 [space] [space] [space] [space]
C 98742 [space] [space] S QJ72 [space] [space] [space]C QT [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H A7 [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D T542 [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C K65 [space] [space] [space] 

Bidding here is EW.. East opens Club queen discounted. Has 12 hcp, 5 control, 12 dist. = 29 again. When partner bids spade, he up evaluates +3, easy 3S. West, knowing partner is 29 to 32 ZARS gets no distibutional fit points and may well pass being not vul at imps. He has 8 hcp, 2 control, 13 distributional = 23. 23+29 = 52, the minimum, but he might worry about his diamond KQ being useful on this auction. Clearly a 2S rebid gets to a better contract. 

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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 3DX [space] E H6 [space]denny73 [space] 7 [space]-300 [space]-7.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 3DX [space] W DA [space]all ways [space]7 [space]-300 [space]-7.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 3S [space] [space]S S8 [space]Tor Magne10 [space]-170 [space]-4.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 2S [space] [space]S H2 [space]wiwi4 [space] [space] 9 [space]-140 [space]-3.67 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 2S [space] [space]S D6 [space]1964CHAMP 9 [space]-140 [space]-3.67 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 2S [space] [space]S D6 [space]michele14 8 [space]-110 [space]-2.67 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 1H [space] [space]N S2 [space]mechta [space] [space]8 [space]-110 [space]-2.67 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 2S [space] [space]S H2 [space]nevaeh [space] [space]8 [space]-110 [space]-2.67 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 1N [space] [space]S H4 [space]Meteor [space] [space]7 [space] -90 [space]-2.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 1N [space] [space]S D3 [space]ania00 [space] [space]6 [space] 100 [space] 2.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 4S [space] [space]S CA [space]tudor g [space] 8 [space] 200 [space] 4.67 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 4S [space] [space]N HA [space]arva8 [space] [space] 8 [space] 200 [space] 4.67 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 4S [space] [space]S H4 [space]titi15 [space] [space]8 [space] 200 [space] 4.67 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 2S [space] [space]S H2 [space]lighthouse6 [space] 200 [space] 4.67 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 3S [space] [space]S D8 [space]SLB42 [space] [space] 6 [space] 300 [space] 6.93 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 4S [space] [space]S D6 [space]mgchat [space] [space]6 [space] 400 [space] 8.67 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]

IMP-50 [space] [space] [space]ashersh [space] [space] Dlr: West [space]
Board 51376 S KJ82 [space] [space] [space]Vul: E-W
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H K8542 [space] [space] 
belleter [space] [space]D J [space] [space] [space] [space] erthwndfir [space]
S Q6 [space] [space] [space] [space]C AK9 [space] [space] [space] S 73 [space] [space] [space] [space]
H T [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] H A963 [space] [space] [space]
D AQT874 [space] [space]jay_jay246 [space]D K92 [space] [space] [space] 
C T732 [space] [space] [space]S AT954 [space] [space] C QJ84 [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H QJ7 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D 653 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C 65 [space] [space] [space] [space]

Way too good for a 3S rebid, goes through 2NT. Game will be reached. 
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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 5SX [space] E HT [space]jay_jay2410 [space]-200 [space]-9.93 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 5S [space] [space]E HT [space]ennet [space] [space] 9 [space]-200 [space]-9.93 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 5H [space] [space]W DK [space]BOCASECA [space]9 [space]-200 [space]-9.93 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 3S [space] [space]E HT [space]dmer20 [space] [space]9 [space] 140 [space]-4.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 2H [space] [space]W CQ [space]usp22 [space] [space] 9 [space] 140 [space]-4.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 2S [space] [space]W S7 [space]aaaanakra11 [space] 200 [space]-3.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 3S [space] [space]W DK [space]orasmusse11 [space] 200 [space]-3.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 5DX [space] S CK [space]Diane Gmur9 [space] 300 [space]-1.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 5DX [space] S CK [space]Parsa [space] [space] 8 [space] 500 [space] 2.93 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 4H [space] [space]W S7 [space]peann [space] [space]10 [space] 620 [space] 5.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 4H [space] [space]W S7 [space]dany17 [space] 10 [space] 620 [space] 5.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 4H [space] [space]W S7 [space]pinzimoni10 [space] 620 [space] 5.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 4H [space] [space]W S7 [space]CipciRypc10 [space] 620 [space] 5.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 4S [space] [space]W CQ [space]TYtiti [space] 11 [space] 650 [space] 6.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 4S [space] [space]E HT [space]goodgame411 [space] 650 [space] 6.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 4SX [space] E HT [space]Hummer_ [space]10 [space] 790 [space] 8.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]

IMP-43 [space] [space] [space]sercaz [space] [space] [space]Dlr: North 
Board 10222 S K952 [space] [space] [space]Vul: E-W
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H K9532 [space] [space] 
cesco37 [space] [space] D AK2 [space] [space] [space] bibetto [space] [space] 
S 8 [space] [space] [space] [space] C 9 [space] [space] [space] [space] S T63 [space] [space] [space] 
H QJ74 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H T86 [space] [space] [space] 
D QJ986 [space] [space] puppet_stm [space]D 7 [space] [space] [space] [space] 
C T63 [space] [space] [space] S AQJ74 [space] [space] C AKQJ75 [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H A [space] [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D T543 [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C 842 [space] [space] [space] 

Agaim. North is too good for 3S. [space]After a 2NT raise (better than 32 ZARS) you are clearly in the slam zone and I suspect 6S will be bid. 
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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 6S [space] [space]S DQ [space]puppet_st12 [space] 980 [space]10.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 6S [space] [space]S HJ [space]golpa111 12 [space] 980 [space]10.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 4SX [space] S CT [space]Iranon [space] 10 [space] 590 [space] 3.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 4S [space] [space]S C3 [space]mnh61 [space] [space]12 [space] 480 [space] 0.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 4S [space] [space]S C3 [space]oli500ma 12 [space] 480 [space] 0.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 4S [space] [space]S C3 [space]pwtv156 [space]12 [space] 480 [space] 0.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 4S [space] [space]S CT [space]wilddog [space]12 [space] 480 [space] 0.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 4S [space] [space]S C3 [space]0755mm [space] 12 [space] 480 [space] 0.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 4S [space] [space]S C3 [space]rona_ [space] [space]12 [space] 480 [space] 0.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 4S [space] [space]S C3 [space]cemo01 [space] 11 [space] 450 [space]-0.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 4S [space] [space]S C6 [space]OTUG [space] [space] 11 [space] 450 [space]-0.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 4S [space] [space]S C3 [space]youmin [space] 11 [space] 450 [space]-0.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 4S [space] [space]S C3 [space]INPUT [space] [space]10 [space] 420 [space]-1.47 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 4S [space] [space]S C3 [space]josia 1 [space]10 [space] 420 [space]-1.47 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 4S [space] [space]S CT [space]8754 [space] [space] [space]9 [space] -50 -10.60 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 4S [space] [space]S CT [space]bearskin399 [space] -50 -10.60 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
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IMP-51 [space] [space] [space]shoshi1 [space] [space] Dlr: East [space]
Board 25604 S AQJ84 [space] [space] Vul: None
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H A83 [space] [space] [space] 
TMSr [space] [space] [space] [space]D 3 [space] [space] [space] [space] Marisha [space] [space] 
S 5 [space] [space] [space] [space] C AT53 [space] [space] [space]S 762 [space] [space] [space] 
H K72 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] H T6 [space] [space] [space] [space]
D AT8754 [space] [space]SOFiC [space] [space] [space] D QJ6 [space] [space] [space] 
C 974 [space] [space] [space] S KT93 [space] [space] [space]C QJ862 [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H QJ954 [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D K92 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C K [space] [space] [space] [space] 

Assuming you open with south, 2S rebid is enough. Open or not depends on if [space]you assign any zar points to stiff king. If 0 pts, then no, if some points, then yes. 

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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 4H [space] [space]E S5 [space]SOFiC [space] [space] 9 [space] -50 -11.60 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 6S [space] [space]W DQ [space]mario45 [space]11 [space] -50 -11.60 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 4S [space] [space]W HT [space]anicash [space]10 [space] 420 [space]-4.47 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 4S [space] [space]W DQ [space]debousset12 [space] 480 [space]-3.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 4H [space] [space]E S5 [space]newton53 12 [space] 480 [space]-3.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 4S [space] [space]W DQ [space]FW34 [space] [space] 12 [space] 480 [space]-3.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 5S [space] [space]W DQ [space]mark48 [space] 12 [space] 480 [space]-3.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 4S [space] [space]W C6 [space]as_pirin 13 [space] 510 [space]-2.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 4S [space] [space]W C6 [space]Bigfish6913 [space] 510 [space]-2.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 5S [space] [space]W CQ [space]tobytub [space]13 [space] 510 [space]-2.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 6H [space] [space]E DA [space]arizu26 [space]12 [space] 980 [space] 6.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 6H [space] [space]E DA [space]Mandiyu [space]12 [space] 980 [space] 6.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 6S [space] [space]W DQ [space]Boyler [space] 12 [space] 980 [space] 6.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 6S [space] [space]W DQ [space]elran [space] [space]12 [space] 980 [space] 6.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 6S [space] [space]W C6 [space]gamanian 12 [space] 980 [space] 6.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 6SXX [space]W DQ [space]Olakhota 12 [space]1620 [space]14.27 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]

IMP-44 [space] [space] [space]kman1us [space] [space] Dlr: North 
Board 51217 S J864 [space] [space] [space]Vul: N-S
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H AQ [space] [space] [space] [space]
metust [space] [space] [space]D K2 [space] [space] [space] [space]zhenzhen [space] [space]
S 932 [space] [space] [space] C AKQ93 [space] [space] S T5 [space] [space] [space] [space]
H KT9 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] H 743 [space] [space] [space] 
D 98765 [space] [space] gexia [space] [space] [space] D QT4 [space] [space] [space] 
C JT [space] [space] [space] [space]S AKQ7 [space] [space] [space]C 87542 [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H J8652 [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D AJ3 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C 6 [space] [space] [space] [space] 

South 15 hcp, 5 control pts, 13 distributional points, 2 points for x club, 2 points for spade honors, comes to 37, much, much too strong for 3S. This one goest through 2NT. Grand slam is a possibility now, and small slam certain. 
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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 7NXX [space]N D9 [space]gexia [space] [space]13 [space]2980 [space]16.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 7N [space] [space]N CJ [space]iraghu [space] 13 [space]2220 [space]10.93 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 7S [space] [space]N D9 [space]Narr [space] [space] 13 [space]2210 [space]10.67 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 6N [space] [space]S ST [space]twop2 [space] [space]13 [space]1470 [space]-0.80 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 6N [space] [space]S H7 [space]hcl [space] [space] [space]13 [space]1470 [space]-0.80 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 6N [space] [space]S C8 [space]lleila [space] 13 [space]1470 [space]-0.80 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 6S [space] [space]N CJ [space]gyuri e [space]13 [space]1460 [space]-0.93 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 6S [space] [space]N D9 [space]Truffels 13 [space]1460 [space]-0.93 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 6S [space] [space]S C8 [space]PeterOgs 13 [space]1460 [space]-0.93 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 6S [space] [space]S ST [space]arildi [space] 13 [space]1460 [space]-0.93 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 6S [space] [space]N CJ [space]tankdrive12 [space]1430 [space]-1.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 6H [space] [space]N D9 [space]boty [space] [space] 12 [space]1430 [space]-1.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 6H [space] [space]N CJ [space]matei [space] [space]12 [space]1430 [space]-1.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 6S [space] [space]N D9 [space]mevil666 12 [space]1430 [space]-1.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 3N [space] [space]N D9 [space]bible [space] [space]13 [space] 720 -12.47 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 3N [space] [space]S C4 [space]em_lala [space]12 [space] 690 -12.93 [space] [space] [space] [space] 
IMP-42 [space] [space] [space]eren11 [space] [space] [space]Dlr: East [space]


Board 59023 S AQ75 [space] [space] [space]Vul: Both
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H J8643 [space] [space] 
gjules [space] [space] [space]D K [space] [space] [space] [space] luz2003 [space] [space] 
S 2 [space] [space] [space] [space] C A73 [space] [space] [space] S T864 [space] [space] [space]
H AK [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H QT975 [space] [space] 
D AQJ98654 [space]giancard [space] [space]D 2 [space] [space] [space] [space] 
C 84 [space] [space] [space] [space]S KJ93 [space] [space] [space]C Q96 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H 2 [space] [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D T73 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C KJT52 [space]

West will not keep quiet, but if he did, north has 2S rebid. 
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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 5SX [space] W HA [space]giancard [space]7 -1100 -14.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 4DX [space] N H3 [space]lirica O610 [space]-710 -11.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 5D [space] [space]N SA [space]h berry [space]11 [space]-600 [space]-9.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 4S [space] [space]W HA [space]gozmo [space] [space] 8 [space]-200 [space]-3.93 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 3D [space] [space]N SA [space]MARKU4A [space]10 [space]-130 [space]-2.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 4D [space] [space]N SA [space]Marian55 10 [space]-130 [space]-2.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 3D [space] [space]N H3 [space]pancia [space] 10 [space]-130 [space]-2.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 5S [space] [space]W HA [space]patna7 [space] 10 [space]-100 [space]-2.07 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 5DX [space] N SA [space]aquila48 10 [space] 200 [space] 3.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 5DX [space] N DK [space]popich [space] 10 [space] 200 [space] 3.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 5DX [space] N SA [space]tefo53 [space] 10 [space] 200 [space] 3.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 5DX [space] N SA [space]peterh [space] 10 [space] 200 [space] 3.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 5DX [space] N SA [space]lachin34 10 [space] 200 [space] 3.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 5DX [space] N CA [space]yoav2005 [space]9 [space] 500 [space] 8.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 6DX [space] N CA [space]degose [space] 10 [space] 500 [space] 8.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 5DXX [space]N SA [space]zehava_3 [space]9 [space]1000 [space]14.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]

IMP-42 [space] [space] [space]12GAUGE [space] [space] Dlr: West [space]
Board 62580 S KQ82 [space] [space] [space]Vul: None
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H J8432 [space] [space] 
ytaktai [space] [space] D A [space] [space] [space] [space] Doug J [space] [space] [space]
S T9 [space] [space] [space] [space]C KQ6 [space] [space] [space] S J3 [space] [space] [space] [space]
H Q975 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H AKT6 [space] [space] [space]
D J93 [space] [space] [space] haoziranny [space]D T84 [space] [space] [space] 
C T983 [space] [space] [space]S A7654 [space] [space] C A742 [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D KQ7652 [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C J5 [space] [space] [space] [space]

North has 15 hcp, 4 control, 13 distributional and 4 fit points (two for spades, two for singleton). Way too much for 3S. 

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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 4S [space] [space]E H5 [space]haozirann12 [space] 480 [space]-1.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 4S [space] [space]W DT [space]loubar [space] 12 [space] 480 [space]-1.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 4S [space] [space]E CT [space]hindasir 12 [space] 480 [space]-1.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 4S [space] [space]E CT [space]Mitke [space] [space]12 [space] 480 [space]-1.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 4S [space] [space]E CT [space]kliebeck212 [space] 480 [space]-1.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 4S [space] [space]E CT [space]gao9898 [space]12 [space] 480 [space]-1.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 4S [space] [space]E C3 [space]clydesbab12 [space] 480 [space]-1.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 4S [space] [space]E ST [space]dervish [space]12 [space] 480 [space]-1.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 4S [space] [space]E CT [space]pool518 [space]12 [space] 480 [space]-1.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 4S [space] [space]W SJ [space]Matuca [space] 12 [space] 480 [space]-1.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 4S [space] [space]E ST [space]DRfinest013 [space] 510 [space]-0.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 5S [space] [space]E ST [space]starfrog 13 [space] 510 [space]-0.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 4S [space] [space]E CT [space]LuboML [space] 13 [space] 510 [space]-0.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 4S [space] [space]W HA [space]ibur [space] [space] 13 [space] 510 [space]-0.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 4S [space] [space]E ST [space]sundal [space] 13 [space] 510 [space]-0.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 6SX [space] E H5 [space]malulani 12 [space]1210 [space]12.00 [space] [space] [space] [space] 

IMP-46 [space] [space] [space]kuyuk [space] [space] [space] Dlr: East [space]
Board 42913 S AQ876 [space] [space] Vul: E-W
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] 
cacjm [space] [space] [space] D 98 [space] [space] [space] [space]angele l [space] [space]
S 43 [space] [space] [space] [space]C QT9843 [space] [space]S T9 [space] [space] [space] [space]
H Q9643 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] H AK8 [space] [space] [space] 
D Q642 [space] [space] [space]mali 579 [space] [space]D JT75 [space] [space] [space]
C AJ [space] [space] [space] [space]S KJ52 [space] [space] [space]C K765 [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H JT752 [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D AK3 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C 2 [space] [space] [space] [space] 

Here is one with a jump rebid of 3S on 12 hcp, but also 4 fit points, 4 control points, and 13 distibutional points. It could also go through 2NT, but the weak long suit is a minus factor. 
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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 3N [space] [space]E D2 [space]mali 579 [space]7 [space]-200 -10.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 3N [space] [space]E H4 [space]cap428 [space] [space]7 [space]-200 -10.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 4S [space] [space]W C5 [space]evelyne 689 [space]-100 [space]-9.47 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 3S [space] [space]W ST [space]sara gr [space] 9 [space] 140 [space]-5.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 3S [space] [space]W ST [space]miguelx [space]11 [space] 200 [space]-4.53 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 2S [space] [space]W HA [space]Tavi29 [space] 12 [space] 230 [space]-3.93 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 3S [space] [space]W DJ [space]jack73 [space] 12 [space] 230 [space]-3.93 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 4S [space] [space]W D5 [space]julie996 10 [space] 620 [space] 3.47 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 4S [space] [space]W HK [space]lewapwj [space]10 [space] 620 [space] 3.47 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 4S [space] [space]W HA [space]RenziC [space] 11 [space] 650 [space] 4.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 4S [space] [space]E D2 [space]meg 24 [space] 11 [space] 650 [space] 4.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 4S [space] [space]W ST [space]yorgun [space] 12 [space] 680 [space] 4.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 4S [space] [space]W DJ [space]hotcup [space] 12 [space] 680 [space] 4.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 4S [space] [space]W ST [space]poseidon612 [space] 680 [space] 4.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 4S [space] [space]W C5 [space]atees [space] [space]12 [space] 680 [space] 4.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 2SX [space] W DJ [space]ersoy_ [space] 12 [space]1470 [space]14.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]

Board 61186 S AKQ5 [space] [space] [space]Vul: E-W
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H T7643 [space] [space] 
belsize [space] [space] D 8 [space] [space] [space] [space] clstabler [space] 
S 7 [space] [space] [space] [space] C Q76 [space] [space] [space] S 843 [space] [space] [space] 
H Q2 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H KJ85 [space] [space] [space]
D KJ96 [space] [space] [space]werne [space] [space] [space] D QT743 [space] [space] 
C KJT852 [space] [space]S JT962 [space] [space] C 9 [space] [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H A9 [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D A52 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C A43 [space] [space] [space] 

This is one I might rebid only 2S on, discounting the club queen due to the very weak hearts. With the discount, there is 11 hcp, 3 control pts, 13 distributional pts, and with fit, 4 more, 31 points. Fullyl discount the club queen and it is "not worthy bidding up", but it is worth something. 

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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 4S [space] [space]W CJ [space]werne [space] [space] 8 [space]-200 -12.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 3S [space] [space]W CT [space]CipciRypc10 [space] 170 [space]-7.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 3S [space] [space]W D6 [space]maryross 11 [space] 200 [space]-7.40 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 5DX [space] S S2 [space]matei [space] [space] 9 [space] 300 [space]-5.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 4S [space] [space]W S7 [space]mrss [space] [space] 10 [space] 620 [space] 2.00 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 4S [space] [space]W HQ [space]pt48 [space] [space] 10 [space] 620 [space] 2.00 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 4S [space] [space]W CJ [space]quidonque11 [space] 650 [space] 2.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 4S [space] [space]W S7 [space]omar6633 11 [space] 650 [space] 2.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 4S [space] [space]W CT [space]alibahadu11 [space] 650 [space] 2.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 4S [space] [space]W S7 [space]fajain [space] 11 [space] 650 [space] 2.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 4S [space] [space]W HQ [space]Freeway2 11 [space] 650 [space] 2.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 4S [space] [space]W C5 [space]rilla [space] [space]11 [space] 650 [space] 2.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 4S [space] [space]W S7 [space]Ats31 [space] [space]11 [space] 650 [space] 2.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 4S [space] [space]W CJ [space]ylra [space] [space] 11 [space] 650 [space] 2.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 4S [space] [space]W CJ [space]adimarxx 11 [space] 650 [space] 2.87 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 4S [space] [space]W CJ [space]gatua64 [space]11 [space] 650 [space] 2.87 [space] [space] 

MP-40 [space] [space] [space]whidbey [space] [space] Dlr: South 
Board 62391 S AKT3 [space] [space] [space]Vul: E-W
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H 98743 [space] [space] 
grzegorzw [space] D 5 [space] [space] [space] [space] alivik [space] [space] [space]
S Q [space] [space] [space] [space] C A62 [space] [space] [space] S 82 [space] [space] [space] [space]
H 62 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H AQT [space] [space] [space] 
D KQ87643 [space] Red Ryder [space] D T92 [space] [space] [space] 
C 953 [space] [space] [space] S J97654 [space] [space]C QT874 [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]H KJ5 [space] [space] [space] 
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]D AJ [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]C KJ [space] [space] [space] [space]

Easy 3S rebid. 

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[space]# Contr [space] Ld [space]Decl [space] [space] Tr [space]Score [space] Pts
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[space]1 6SX [space] N DK [space]Red Ryder12 [space]1210 [space]11.13 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]2 6DX [space] E CA [space]alpha0999 8 [space]1100 [space]10.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]3 5CX [space] W DA [space]shaash [space] [space]7 [space]1100 [space]10.33 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]4 4S [space] [space]N DK [space]sbkothava12 [space] 480 [space]-1.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]5 4S [space] [space]N C3 [space]hnmt [space] [space] 12 [space] 480 [space]-1.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]6 4S [space] [space]N C9 [space]micah [space] [space]12 [space] 480 [space]-1.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]7 4S [space] [space]N DK [space]marel_22212 [space] 480 [space]-1.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]8 4S [space] [space]N DK [space]ISOTALO [space]12 [space] 480 [space]-1.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
[space]9 4S [space] [space]N DK [space]mankapur112 [space] 480 [space]-1.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
10 4S [space] [space]N DK [space]Chickenma12 [space] 480 [space]-1.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
11 4S [space] [space]S CT [space]Steffbana12 [space] 480 [space]-1.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
12 5S [space] [space]N DK [space]jillian [space]12 [space] 480 [space]-1.73 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
13 4H [space] [space]S S8 [space]gmeister 11 [space] 450 [space]-2.67 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
14 4S [space] [space]N DK [space]BarbaraTo11 [space] 450 [space]-2.67 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
15 4S [space] [space]N DK [space]RICKEY1 [space]11 [space] 450 [space]-2.67 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space]
16 3S [space] [space]N DK [space]winalex [space]11 [space] 200 [space]-8.20 [space] [space] [space] [space] 

[Walddk]

The relay helps on the slam hands, but I'm not sure how you get to the right spot when responder holds only a game-invitational hand and opener has three trumps. Seems like you're stuck playing either 3NT on light values or 3♠ on a 4-3 fit and two balanced hands......

Why two balanced hands? There is a valid reason if opener decides to raise with only 3 cards. The most likely pattern is 5431, and then the 4-3 fit often plays better than notrump.

 

Most 5332 hands will rebid 1NT and then responder can check back from there.

 

Playing the relay (2♠ after a heart raise), responder kan find out about shortage if opener shows 3-card support and minimum. The important thing to remember is that you don't open balanced 11 counts and you don't invite with thrash.

 

Roland

[awm]

Hmm so what's the ZAR point range for a 2♠ raise?

 

It seems like the minimum shouldn't start at 26 or so anymore. After all, you presumably wouldn't open with less than 25-26 before counting for fit. Looking at the example hands, even the ones that you bid 2♠ on seem to be 28-29 ZAR (i.e. right on the threshold of 3♠) and these generally have a fair amount of wastage in the doubletons.

 

Seems reasonable to me to tone things down a bit and let the jump promise a bit more. This would be especially true without the 2NT raise (since your only stronger option than the jump involves forcing to game).

 

It's also worth a mention that your jumps to 3♠ on very minimum openings with four card support are somewhat protected by the knowledge that partner has five spades in your methods. Even if you reach an awful contract opposite a dead minimum partner, you have LOTT protection and are probably sacrificing against something. This level of aggression in raising opposite a 1♠ bid that could be four will get you too high substantially more often.

[awm]

In response to Roland:

 

Axx

AKJxx

xx

xxx

 

Maybe when you open 1♥ and partner bids 1♠ (natural) you rebid 1NT on this hand, but you'll never convince me this is right. In fact I am surprised, since you seemed to be in favor of frequent three-card raises after minor suit openings and I can't see why the same shouldn't apply to 1♥.

 

Even assuming a singleton is required, where do you want to be on these two hands:

 

Axx

KQxxx

KJxx

x

 

Jxxx

Ax

Qxx

KJxx

 

Probably 2♠ will be okay, although even that isn't 100% clear. But the south hand is probably worth a game try, especially given that you don't raise to 3♠ as aggressively as Ben does. I think 2NT is playable, but I wouldn't want to be in 3♠ after a declined game try and 3NT seems a bit overboard doesn't it?

 

Perhaps you're more comfortable with 4-3 fits than I, but usually I've found that playing a 4-3 fit at the 3-level with 23-24 hcp isn't the best result. Your mileage may vary. :lol: