hatchett Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 [hv=d=w&v=e&s=s5hkjt7653dcaj864]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] 1♠ 3♦ 4♠ ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Pass If 4s is making 5H may only be down 2 or 3 for minus 300/500 vs 620 but let's pass and defend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Pass. I'm guessing this worked badly or this wouldn't be a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 I pass. Who knows who can make anything? Opposite a typical white v red 3♦ of xx x KQJxxxx xxx, 5♥ will be expensive even if trump are 3-2 and 4♠ is cold, while on other hands, 4♠ may be failing: xx Qxx AJxxxxx x... he leads his stiff ♣. Bidding 5♥ requires the parlay that 5♥ goes for no more than 500 and that 4♠ makes. Passing wins whenever 5♥ is too rich or when 4♠ fails. While, individually, I estimate that 4♠ will make more often than not and that 5♥ will fail by 300 or 500 more often than by 800, I don't like the parlay odds. Note that I am not factoring in a playable 5♣. Assume 4N is takeout: will we really pass 5♣ doubled, when we could be in a 5-2 fit rather than a 7-1 or 7-2? Count me out of that gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchett Posted July 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Opposite a typical white v red 3♦ of xx x KQJxxxx xxx That would be a typical 4♦ pre-empt for me at green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 "That would be a typical 4D pre-empt for me at green." Me too. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 I don't have a problem with anyone saying that the hand xx x KQJxxxx xxx is a 4♦ preempt: I might do that myself.. the point was that even that good a playing hand (for a ♦ preempt) offers no help in 5♥... make it xx x KJxxxxx xxx and (I assume) you'd prefer 3♦ and you get my point. BTW, for what it is worth, I am not generally a 4m bidder. 5m yes, 3m, yes, but 4 minor forces them to bid game all too often: either when they might have played 3M or in circumstances in which our partner has to make the last guess. Having said that, I well recognize the advantages of removing the forcing change of suit by responder and the cue bid, and, as the entries in my internal database change over time, I may become a readier 4m bidder than I am now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 4S has a decent chance to be set on a diamond lead. I pass quickly and think it has better expectancy than 5Hx, even at this vul. .. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Pass. There's a good chance pard will have 3-4 spades and streched to bid 3♦. Don't punish him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 I pass quickly. I pass slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civill Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Pass for our misfit and their game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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