Club Slam

[Winstonm]

[hv=d=n&v=n&n=sq10532hakqdaj9ca3&s=s8hj1053d8ckqj9854]133|200|Scoring: IMP

North opens 2N. No opposing bidding.[/hv]

 

Here's another from the Las Vegas K.O.s. 12 cashers with no finesses yet this hand produced a slam swing. If it matters, your opponents holding the same cards are Murray Melton north and Jack Blair South. How should it be bid?

[pbleighton]

You mean I can't open a strong club? :)

 

I don't have a way to ask about pd's minor suits after 2NT. The problem with Gerber is that you can't stop in 5C. Oh, dear, I wish I had better agreements :(

 

I would bid 5C or 6C, depending on my mood. Most days I would bid 6 (because of my dislike of the 5 level), which happens to work on this hand.

 

Peter

[mike777]

Gerber, I can stop in 4nt. :).

 

oops gerber is banned in forum...

[keylime]

Playing Rubber Ducky Stayman:

 

2NT - 3S* (forces 3NT)

3NT - 4H* (slam try in clubs)

4S - (high honor doubleton in clubs) - 4S (side suit of hearts, 4NT shows side suit of spades)

6C

[mgoetze]

[hv=d=n&v=n&n=sq10532hakqdaj9ca3&s=s8hj1053d8ckqj9854]133|200|Scoring: IMP

North opens 2N.  No opposing bidding.[/hv]

Here's how I would bid this one with Arend:

 

2NT-3♠; forces 3NT

3NT-4♣; Slam try in Clubs

4♦-4♠; Cue bids

 

Now it's obvious to opener that responder was looking for a heart control - he's certainly got those under control and will thus make a move, either 4NT or 5♥, either of which ends up in 6♣. Of course, we might be off 2 Aces... I vote for strong club as well. ;)

[neilkaz]

If lacking 3S gadgets (something should be standardized) I just use Gerber and stop in 4NT if off two aces and bid 5C asking for kings incase PD can then carry on to a grand if he has all 4 aces and stop in 6C if he has 3 aces. Simple old fashioned bidding can work out fine here.

 

Off course I can also look for a H slam via Stayman, but the sequence afterwards may prove difficult and confusing in the key card or ace ask if PD doesn't have 4H and rebids 3D or 3S (noting I play mostly with adv/exp pickups)

 

.. neilkaz ..

[neilkaz]

After more thought and lacking gadgets, I'd still stick with my 4C Gerber old fashioned plan. Perhaps 6C makes and 6H is set due to two losers even when PD has 4 hearts. Hopefully RKC would clear that situation up but lacking 1 key card and the Q of H one would have to try 6C instead in one still wanted to slam. The only way to be sure of a grand is to find PD with all 5 Heart key cards+ the queen of H. That is rather unlikely.

 

I'll just use Gerber and gamble 6C if PD has 3 aces (opps could lead wrong and get squeezed badly) and bid 6C if he has all 4 aces.

 

Crude but hopefully effective and practical .. neilkaz ..

[SoTired]

With a 7-4,, forget about the 4. Probably plays better in the 7 anyway. Wouldn't you feel sick to play in 6H when partner had something like AKQx AKxx Jxx Ax? 6C is cold but 6H requires the heart finesse. Or maybe partner has Ax AKQx AKxx xxx and they set 6H with a club lead and ruff.

 

2N 4C

4N 6C - That was easy

[neilkaz]

With a 7-4,, forget about the 4. Probably plays better in the 7 anyway. Wouldn't you feel sick to play in 6H when partner had something like AKQx AKxx Jxx Ax? 6C is cold but 6H requires the heart finesse. Or maybe partner has Ax AKQx AKxx xxx and they set 6H with a club lead and ruff.

 

2N 4C

4N 6C - That was easy

We agree.

[whereagles]

The losing trick count is good for this kind of hands.

 

Responder = 6 losers

2NT = expectancy of 6 cover cards

 

Slam zone, even grand slam zone. Since gerber is banned, you should just shoot 6♣ ;)