sceptic Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 This is how I think it should be bid SAYC pard seemed better than me (thats not saying much LOL) BWood and no real discussions 1H - p - 1NT - p - 2H - p - 3C all passthis is how it was bid gave us a top making 9 tricks, I just am not convinced we should be there [hv=d=s&v=e&n=sa754haj9876d94ck&w=s96hkt32da873ca75&e=skjt83h54dj65cq84&s=sq2hqdkqt2cjt9632]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South - - - Pass Pass 1♥ Pass 2♣ Pass 2♠ Pass 2NT Pass 3♥ Pass 3NT Pass Pass Pass ur comments welcomed please about all THX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 1H-1N-2H looks about right. An interesting combination in diamonds - if the opening lead is the diamond 3 East has to play the 5 to hold the combination to 2 diamonds tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 1H-1N-2H looks about right. ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 i guess i hate sayc cause i just don't understand it... why 2c? why 2s over 2c? (that's a reverse even is sayc isn't it?).. agree with the others, looks like 1h : 1nt : 2h pass to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 "1H-1N-2H looks about right." Agree, but 2C isn't totally out of line. I would have rebid 2H after 2C. I don't think the North hand is good enough to insist on game opposite what may be (and is) a bad 10 count without a little heart support. I don't think 2S shows 17, but it should show 15/good 14. After 1H-2C-2S, 3NT is inevitable. After 1H-2C-2H, in true SAYC responder must bid again. Yuck! Horrible clubs for 3C, 3D is GF. So I would bid 2NT. :rolleyes: North would probably pass, or maybe sign off in 3H BTW, I believe that a 3C rebid is technically undefined in SAYC as to strength, forcing/nonforcing. Does anyone have an authority which says if it is forcing? Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 After 1H-2C-2H, in true SAYC responder must bid again. Yuck! Horrible clubs for 3C, 3D is GF. So I would bid 2NT. :lol: I think you're forgetting something here. South passed in first seat. His 2♣ bid is therefore not forcing in any "true" version of Standard American. B) IMO, North doesn't have anything close to a reverse. His call is either 2 ♥ or Pass. As for a 3♣ rebid from opener, the ACBL SAYC booklet says: Few sequences are defined in the later rounds of “ACBL Standard Yellow Card” auctions. Players are free to assign forcing, invitational or non-forcing meanings to natural calls in such sequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 i guess i hate sayc cause i just don't understand it... why 2c? why 2s over 2c? (that's a reverse even is sayc isn't it?).. agree with the others, looks like 1h : 1nt : 2h pass to me Why 2♣? Because you have a maximum hand, a ♣ suit and no great ♥ fit. If this isn't a 2♣ bid then what is? I agree that 2♠ needs a stronger hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Why 2♣? Because you have a maximum hand, a ♣ suit and no great ♥ fit. If this isn't a 2♣ bid then what is? ok, if you say so... but after 1h : 2c : 2h, 2nt has to be bid eh? i'd say any hand that's strong enough to bid 2c *and* has the promised rebid is a 2c bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 The appropriate bidding here is:1♥ - 2♣2♥ - passSome may argue that 2♣ is self forcing, but i think it is ok to pass with a minimum hand and because 2♥ should also show a minimum hand.2♠ from north is a huge overbid (and as you know from other threads I'm willing to reverse "weak"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 "I think you're forgetting something here. South passed in first seat. " Yup. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 After passing initially, I don't think South's 2C bid promises a rebid if North makes a minimum response. .. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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