badderzboy Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Playing Acol 4 card majors... Opps open 1C-1S-4S. You hold [hv=d=w&v=e&s=st54h98754dqjcqt6]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] What's your lead Do it change given u are playing a 13 table moderate ability club night. Does it change playing teams... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 How about ♦J? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 I agree with Senshu - J of ♦ looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 What exactly is appealing about the ♦J? It seems like this will often cause partner to go wrong when holding the ♦A, with the only compensation being that declarer may misguess if holding the ♦A, ♦K, and ♦T between the two hands. Even if this latter situation is the case, declarer can often set up the clubs or ruff a diamond and avoid any guess in the diamond suit entirely. I'll stick with the routine ♦Q lead thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 What exactly is appealing about the ♦J? It seems like this will often cause partner to go wrong when holding the ♦A, with the only compensation being that declarer may misguess if holding the ♦A, ♦K, and ♦T between the two hands. Even if this latter situation is the case, declarer can often set up the clubs or ruff a diamond and avoid any guess in the diamond suit entirely. I'll stick with the routine ♦Q lead thanks.100% agreement here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Q♦ is pretty easy. Im leading a sequence through strength and I have an outside chance of a ruff. J♦ is a partnership killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 ♦Q seems obvious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 What mikeh said.We have the death club holding and have to be aggressive. The most aggressive red suit lead is a diamond. leading the DJ instead of the systemic DQ would only work if the goal is to deceive declarer about the layout of the diamond suit: but we aren't trying to do that, we are trying to set up 4 tricks before he has 10 and partner needs to be in on the joke in order to do that successfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchett Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 We have the death club holding and have to be aggressive. The most aggressive red suit lead is a diamond. leading the DJ instead of the systemic DQ would only work if the goal is to deceive declarer about the layout of the diamond suit: but we aren't trying to do that, we are trying to set up 4 tricks before he has 10 and partner needs to be in on the joke in order to do that successfully. I would lead the DQ too, but note we are playing matchpoints so we don't know our trick target is 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 I see no reason not to lead a normal ♦Q. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 I would lead the DQ too, but note we are playing matchpoints so we don't know our trick target is 4. based on opener's bidding, i can't imagine taking *more* than 4 tricks... i'd be very happy setting this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 We have the death club holding and have to be aggressive. The most aggressive red suit lead is a diamond. leading the DJ instead of the systemic DQ would only work if the goal is to deceive declarer about the layout of the diamond suit: but we aren't trying to do that, we are trying to set up 4 tricks before he has 10 and partner needs to be in on the joke in order to do that successfully. I would lead the DQ too, but note we are playing matchpoints so we don't know our trick target is 4. Well, you tend to get a good board for beating game at matchpoints as well.But to rephrase: we still have a dreadful club holding, and at matchpoints our target is as many tricks as possible, so we still need to be aggressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchett Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Well, you tend to get a good board for beating game at matchpoints as well.But to rephrase: we still have a dreadful club holding, and at matchpoints our target is as many tricks as possible, so we still need to be aggressive. I would lead the ♦Q as well, but the point I was making, maybe poorly, was the deceptive J lead has more to commend it at matchpoints, for instance, it might be a +1 hand dependant on the diamond guess for a second overtrick, a big result at MPs but of little value at IMPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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