microcap Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 In third hand, imp match, red vs red, you are dealt: [hv=d=n&v=b&s=saj8653h9dcj98765]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] P It goes pass, pass to you. First question: Do you open this as any sort of pre-empt? Rex and I prefer stronger suits vulnerable, so he passed to start. Assuming you pass, 4th hand opponent opens 1♦. Do you act now, and if so, what do you bid? :rolleyes: :blink: :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 3♠ at game all seems about right. I am not going to give LHO a free ride. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 2s, no problems yet. IF you force me to pass and lho opens 1d, what does every one else bid until my turn again? IF everyone passes I will defend 1D I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 3S. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microcap Posted June 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Please make clear if your bid is a) On your first turn [rather than passing], or :blink: on your second turn right after the 1♦ opening and partner and LHO have passed to start. Thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Opening. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Red vs Red in 3rd seat? While I am tempted to open 3S (definitely if I was white) I will pass and see how the auction proceeds. 1 QT at the most and only playing strength bodes well for the pre-empt, but why let them in on the secret? Once you have passed (and with freaks like this, bidding three or four times as a passed hand really helps pard to know what to do) you can do what seems appropriate. Once you preempt and it fails, I personally don't want to then introduce my 2nd suit at the 4 or 5 level without giving pard a say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 3♠. Add the Q♠, and I'll fish out the 4♠ card. I don't know what I'd open as dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 The nice thing about 2s is it may get a 3 card raise out of partner which may help us decide the proper level for this hand. 3s opening will have everyone guessing. Nice hand to use FTL, fight the law on.13-1-?=tricks we can take13=total tricks, given1=estimated combined 2 shortest suits?=estimate of working hcp, example 19-21=zero....16-18=minus one, etc...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 This is tough. I might pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 In third seat I cannot imagine passing this, ever. 3♠ seems right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microcap Posted June 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Let's assume for better or worse that you did pass on your first bid. What do you bid over the 1 Diamond opening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 1♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Let's assume for better or worse that you did pass on your first bid. What do you bid over the 1 Diamond opening? For worse. I will bid 1♠ and keep bidding clubs until I am declarer. Then I play slowly until partner leaves for a bathroom break, so he never gets to see my hand.(Later)"Sorry partner, there were no printouts of the hand records left." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microcap Posted June 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 For worse. I will bid 1♠ and keep bidding clubs until I am declarer. Then I play slowly until partner leaves for a bathroom break, so he never gets to see my hand.(Later)"Sorry partner, there were no printouts of the hand records left." LOL I have used that one on Rex---he is wise to it now! :) B) :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 1♥. When compared with :) "In third seat I cannot imagine passing this, ever. 3♠ seems right. " :P There does not seem to be any lack of imagination, Han..... B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 :P I had to imagine passing anyway. I tried this, lots of things happened in my head and my fingers typed 1♥, what can I say? Perhaps one shouldn't be asked what to do after making a pass like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microcap Posted June 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Being the unquestioned genius that I am, I have of course misstated the problem!! You hold this in first hand, not third. So a) do you pass originally? :) Assuming you pass originally and 4th hand bids 1♦, what do you next overcall? B) :P B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 ARGH! It was just my imagination; runnin' away with me...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 ARGH! It was just my imagination; runnin' away with me......I like pass and then 4C leaping michaels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 #1. 1st seat: matter of style. Pass or 3/4♠, depending on the day and opps. #2. 5th seat: if you have a 2 suiter bid, use it. Otherwise see #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 First hand pass in SAYC or so , later leaping michaels or whatever I use for twosuiters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cf_John0 Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 If not 3♠,might 1♥ be acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 :huh: I have to admire more aggressive calls, but a timid 2♠ for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoKole Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 2 Diamonds = Weak 6 card suit in an unspecified major. If I get to play it in 2 spades great, If opponents compete in hearts or diamonds, I'll make an exception and break my vow of silence to bid clubs. My partnerships allow this under exceptional circumstances so partner will know exactly what I have. Not exactly safe but I'm not a conservative bidder in style :lol: Cheers, Theo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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