Miron Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 1♠ - pass - 2♣ - 2♥2♠ - 3♥ - 4♦ What are 4♦?What would be double?And 4♥? In Vugraph there was a misunderstanding (but with good end) and I was not sure what this bid should be... Assume 2/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 If my partner bid 4D I would assume he had lots of clubs and lots of diamonds, but more clubs than diamonds. Double penalties. 4H very good hand, likely to want to play in spades. With my regular partners I am certain about the first two of these, I'm not certain we'd be 100% in alignment about what hands would bid 4H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 4H is easy, it certainly shows spadesupport and most likely shortage in hearts => 3-1-3-5. 4D is a bid more problematic, it depends a bid on the meaning of3S, ... since we assume 2/1, 3Sis forcing, hence 4D is probablynatural and denies a fit - mostlikely 6-5. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Totally agree with frances. 4 Diamonds shows Diamonds and is forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 4♥ clearly shows spade support since 4♣ and 4♦ are natural and forcing. I'd say that 4♠ is the weakest raise, 3♠ shows some slam extras, may be quite strong and 4♥ as slam interest with a heart control. It may be a good idea to play that 4♥ shows heart shortness, as you have 3♠ available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miron Posted June 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Thanks for replies, I was just not sure.The vugraph was:North: x A KQJxx AJxxxx 1♠ - pass - 2♣ - 2♥2♠ - 3♥ - 4♦ - pass4♥ - pass - 4NT - pass5♣0 or 3, It is obvious that partner took 4♦ as cuebid for spades. What will be your bid? Helgemo bid 7♦, it is the best contract as South has:AKxxxx x Axx Kxx(spades are 3-3, clubs 2-2...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 0 or 3, It is obvious that partner took 4♦ as cuebid for spades. What will be your bid? Why is it obvious that partner took 4♦ as a cuebid for spades? This wouldn't occur to me either before or after looking at either or both of the hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000002 Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 the oppoents preempt 3♥ only ?with total 11cards ♥? were their skill advanced only? B) 5♣ is excellent versatility since 2 black King,look like golden King. regards 000002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Thanks for replies, I was just not sure.The vugraph was:North: x A KQJxx AJxxxx 1♠ - pass - 2♣ - 2♥2♠ - 3♥ - 4♦ - pass4♥ - pass - 4NT - pass5♣0 or 3, It is obvious that partner took 4♦ as cuebid for spades. What will be your bid? Helgemo bid 7♦, it is the best contract as South has:AKxxxx x Axx Kxx(spades are 3-3, clubs 2-2...) It's not obvious at all partner took 4D as a cue for spades. He has a huge hand (virtually a slam force) opposite a minor 2-suiter and was showing his heart control en route (he may have thought) to 6C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkle Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 The hands were actually... Helness: ♠6 ♥A ♦KQJ74 ♣AKJ986Helgemo: ♠AKT975 ♥T ♦AT2 ♣743 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miron Posted June 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 The hands were actually... Helness: ♠6 ♥A ♦KQJ74 ♣AKJ986Helgemo: ♠AKT975 ♥T ♦AT2 ♣743You're right (I switched the ♣K). Thanks for writting them. If 5♣ is 0 or 3 and only 2 aces are missing then it has to be response with some king (when you have the club one, it is MUCH easier to know with which king). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 4♦ is natural but could show an advanced cue-bids (facing expert partner) X is penalty what else ? 4h show at least 2 spades and extra values. (not necessarely H controls if got some nice extra imho) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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