what would x be in balancing position

[sceptic]

[hv=d=e&v=a&n=sa83h6daj972ck954&w=sk74hkt9dt86caq62&e=sj52hj7542dkq4c73&s=sqt96haq83d53cjt8]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

West North East South

 

 -     -     Pass  Pass

 1♣    1♦    1♥    1NT

 2♥    Pass  Pass  Pass

 

 

how does South make a penalty x over 2 hearts ?

[hotShot]

dbl now should be penalty.

With your 1NT bid you described your hand. You denied a 5(4] card ♠, 3card support in ♦ and you should have stopper in ♥ and perhaps ♣ (since 1♣ does not promise a long suit).

[toothbrush]

This is an interesting situation:

Dbl by south would be penalty now, no doubt.

A dbl by north would be takeout, sitting before the ♥-bidder. North can't have a penalty dbl because South has a stopper and opps a fit!

 

In this situation I believe North has a better takeout double than south having a penalty double. South is unable to dbl because he does not know how strong his partner is.

 

However I don't think this contract should be doubled, playing IMPs. At matchpoints, I think North should dbl (takeout) and South passes it.

[Double !]

One makes a penalty double of 2 Hearts by placing the red card on the table or hitting the double tab on your screen.

 

you made a limited, relatively descriptive bid that included a reasonable holding in hearts when you bid 1NT. A double at this point, by the limited hand (that didn't snapdragon X or bid 1S over 1H) should show "hey, I have better hearts than i showed, methinks the opps be in trouble, let's defend and see". :) Just make sure that your P doesn't overcall on junk....."Nobody knows the overcalls I've seen. Nobody knows but.............."

 

DHL

[P_Marlowe]

X is penalty, you promised heart values

with 1NT, now you say,

that they crossed a line, altough I am

not sure I ever would, ... only if 1D

promises the strength for an opening bid,

what I doubt.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[Finch]

One of our doubling rules is

 

"When we have bid NT showing values in a particular suit, then double of that suit is penalties. Unless another "penalty" rule applies, double of that suit from partner is still take-out, but should not be a void and should be prepared for a frequent pass."

 

So double is penalties.

 

(Now you can start worrying about auctions such as

1S 1NT 2S P P x which we have agreed as take-out by special dispensation....)