mishovnbg Posted March 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 We have been playing meta-bids without this name for two or three years over our nebulous 1♦ in competition. Our one diamond is minor oriented guaranteeing at least one long minor. Precisely it is two or three suited unbalanced with no five-card major (some hands with six clubs and four diamonds are excluded). I am sure it can be adapted to other nebulous 1♦ and maybe even other systems. 1♦ (1♥/♠) Dbl = minor oriented negative double 1♦ (1♥) 2♣ = ♣+♠1♦ (1♥) 2♦ = ♦+♠1♦ (1♠) 2♣ = ♣+♥1♦ (1♠) 2♦ = ♦+♥ All of these bids are non-forcing for us. WayneWhat do your other bids mean after the nebulous diamond? Presumably over 1♥ (assuming 11-15 HCP 1♦):1♠ = 5+ F1? NF?1NT = stopper, 8-10 HCP, not 4-cards in OM2NT = stopper(s), 11-12 HCP, not 4-cards in OM3NT = stopper(s), 13-16 HCP, not 4-cards in OM But what about 2♥, 2♠, 3♣, 3♦, etc. ? How do you show a "competitive" but NF club or diamond one suiter? Same hand but GF? One scheme would be to use suit bids one above the cue bid to be transfers. What are your forcing bids with the same distribution as the Dbl, 2♣, 2♦ hands? After 1♦ (1♥), with 5 spades and a 4-card minor, do you overcall 1♠? But over 1♦ (1♠), presumably 2m could be 54 either way? Would the meanings be different if you were playing a "standard" Precision nebulous 1♦? I guess my questions break down to:1) How do you handle one-suited in the other suits, both GF and < GF.2) How do you handle two-suited hands, both GF and < GF.3) Balanced hands with and without stoppers and with 4 cards in OM.4) How to handle 3-suiters. Per one of the other notes, 3-suited hands get shown as 2-suited and hope to live another day. Since 3-suited hands are rare, this may be good for matchpoints. ------------------------------------------------------------------------Hi cwiggins! ------I have some expirience while playing similar scheme in NTC system at tournaments with my partner Marian. In 24 board MP tournaments we had average 3 boards wins, because played right sided contracts. I will give you an example:1♦{weak NT or natural} - (1♠) - ? X: 8+HCP without other available bid, defensive hand1NT: nat2♣: inv+, 5+♥ or gf 4+♥2♦: inv-, 4+♥, passable (weak take out double)2♥: inv+, (5)6+♣, deny 4 ♥2♠: inv+, (5)6+♦, deny 4 ♥2NT: inv+, 4+♥-4+♦, unbalanced3♣/3♥: inv, 6+♣/♥3♦: inv-, (5)6+♦, deny 4♥3♠: ask for stopper ♠ with good (5)6+♣/♦3NT: stopper ♠ with good (5)6+♣/♦, to play ------------------------------------------------------------------Misho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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