Free Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 [hv=n=saj&w=stx&e=sqxx&s=sk9xxxx]399|300|[/hv] You play the Ace, and let the J run (unless covered) pinning the T. What's this called? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erki_ Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 intra-finesse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLight Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 I've seen it called "Smothering" or "squashing". Run the jack, smothering the 10. (I think in one of Mike Lawrences software lessons he mentions "squashing") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 I believe that this position or play is called a "pinning play" a smother play is something like the following/ spades trump, lho on lead: Assume spades are trump, it's lho's lead trick 12, (lho has no spades) dummy's last two cards are the JT of spades , rho's last 2 cards are the Kx of spades, and you have stiff ace and another card (loser) in another suit. you trump anything lho leads with the ten and rho is dead. DHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 I've seen it called "Smothering" or "squashing". Run the jack, smothering the 10. I can add "pinning" and "scooping". Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 In the commentaries I have seen, this is always referred to as "pinning the Ten". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchiu Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Technically, a smother play (not just smother) refers to [hv=n=sqjhdc&w=shdxxc&e=sk10hdc&s=sahxdc]399|300|♠ are trump and West is on lead. The forced return smothers East's ♠K.[/hv] and an intrafinesse refers to the suit combination [hv=n=sq98x&w=s10x&e=skjxx&s=saxx]399|300|Needing two tricks from this suit, South plays low to the eight, then leads the queen on the way back, pinning the ten. The intrafinesse is the first play in the suit.[/hv] I think this position is just called pinning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothbrush Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 I agree with the term 'pinning'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 I've always called it "Down 1?". :blink: Playing to pin the ten is rare as it requires a known Queen offside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 I've always called it "Down 1?". :P Playing to pin the ten is rare as it requires a known Queen offside. why? there are alot of instances holding 8 or 9 cards where this situation comes up. Are the odds gonna be better to play for HX on side? I imagine tactics and which opp you may want to keep off lead have alot to do with it also, plus entries to hands. But i would call it a smother play :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civill Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 (edited) In Chinese,it's "铲飞";I would literally translate it into "Eradicating finesse";You might get it as "Toad finesse" or "Toad flying" if the Chinese word are misheared. Edited June 6, 2006 by civill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 I've always called it "Down 1?". :P Playing to pin the ten is rare as it requires a known Queen offside. why? there are alot of instances holding 8 or 9 cards where this situation comes up. Are the odds gonna be better to play for HX on side? I imagine tactics and which opp you may want to keep off lead have alot to do with it also, plus entries to hands. But i would call it a smother play ;)If you want to keep a particular opponent off lead, it's called an avoidance play. But then you are not really trying to play the suit for no losers, only to control who wins their trick. There are very few situations where this is the percentage line in the suit. To take this particular combination, low to the jack picks up Qx or Qxx on your left, while ace and run the jack only collects 10x on your left. You would usually only take this line to try for no losers in the suit if you are certain the queen is offside. I usually see this called 'pinning' the ten. A similar position is something like this: KJ98 10xx Qxx Axx You run the Jack, covered by the queen, and finesse against the 10 on the way back. This is usually known as a 'backwards finesse'. Again, it is only the percentage line in the suit if the queen is fairly certain to be over the jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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