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Hi all

My p and I was discussing the meaning of this sequence

 

1 NT - 2 C 1 NT (15-17)

2 D - 3 D

 

 

His hand was

 

S KDxx

H Dxxx

D BTxxx

C -

 

I believe 3 D shows a stronger hand with more diamonds.

What do you believe? :)

 

 

Marianne

 

PS Can anyone link me to the discussion of opening NT with a singleton K or A?

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Since a new suit on 3rd level is played as at least "round forcing bid" this hand is a very bad example of it.

 

Only invitational values, misfitting in clubs... It would be a disaster when opener rebids 3NT. What now? Pass for two-down when opener holds the 3325 pattern (most probably)?

 

Two better alternatives are:

a) 2NT, natural invitation (very doubtful, with void),

:) 2H, pass/correct, aiming a Moysian fit in major (best choice).

 

Poky

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Hi Marianne,

 

The meaning of 3D can be clouded only by what the meaning of a 2S rebid would have meant. Specifically, some people play this....

 

1N 2C

2D 2H <<---non forcing 5/4 or 4/5 (can have 5S and 4H, non-forcing

 

1N 2C

2D 2S <<-- artifiical force,

 

This 2S bid opens up 3C/3D over 2D as non-forcing.

 

In standard stayman, without such an agreement, I would expecct the 3D bid to be better than the hand shown.

 

Ben

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