cherdano Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Here are some problems from the other side of the table:1.[hv=d=w&v=b&s=s97xxhatxxdj9xxcq]133|100|Scoring: MP(1♣)*-1♦-P-?1♣ was precision, pass by RHO was 0-5.[/hv]1♦ is not a noise, but has a reason to bid. 2. [hv=d=s&v=n&n=s87xxxhjdj75c98xx&s=saqjhk7xxda986caq]133|200|Scoring: MPAfter opening 2N, you get to play 3♠.You get a spade lead to the king and ace.Plan the play.[/hv] 3.[hv=d=w&v=b&s=s97xxhatxxdj9xxcq]133|100|Scoring: MP(1♣)*-1♦-P-?1♣ was precision, pass by RHO was 0-5.[/hv]1♠ promised an unbalanced hand. Your options are:- 3♥ or 3♠, both forcing showing slam interest- 4♦ splinter- 2♦ artificial game force. Initially starts choice of game search but does not deny slam interest. 4.[hv=d=w&v=b&s=s97xxhatxxdj9xxcq]133|100|Scoring: MP(1♣)*-1♦-P-?1♣ was precision, pass by RHO was 0-5.[/hv]4♣ was fit-showing, forcing, but does not establish a forcing pass. 5. After two passes at all red, RHO opens 1N. You pass ♠KQ87 ♥K2 ♦QT532 ♣K7 (agree?) and partner reopens with double=spades and another. What now? (2-level is pass/correct, 2N would ask for 2nd suit and show game interest.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 1. I'll bid 3♦. More might well be right, but I'm happy enough defending 3M. Could partner's bid be lead-directional on AKQx? 2. I want to pull trumps and finesse against the diamond ten. Avoid opening the round suits if possible. 3. 3♠. Too good for 4♦, not quite good enough to bid 4♦ and then take another action. And I have a fit or two or three for partner, so I'll mention this. 4. I'll double. Maybe they'll make, but I think most of the time this should be off. 5. Call me a coward, but 2♠. No singletons, no aces ... no real game ambition, particularly as partner may be protecting pretty light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Ok I was hoping someone else would ask but what hand does partner show for 4club fit showing after passing in first seat? On hand three what does 2c or 2s cuebid show since those are not options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted May 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Ok I was hoping someone else would ask but hand does partner show for 4club fit showing after passing in first seat?In terms of hcp, I think it shows s.th. between good 9 to 11. It's definitely stronger than a 4♥ bid. At least 5-4 in the two suits (in that case probably with a singleton on the side), ideally both suits good.On hand three what does 2c or 2s cuebid show since those are not options.2♣ is puppet to play 2♦ or for any game invite. 2♠ is to play unless partner has a monster. HTH :P Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 ok on hand 3 maybe I have the bidding wrong, I thought the opp were bidding and we overcalled, perhaps the opp are silent here and we are playing xyz it seems. Given the opp are silent and I have such good hearts and so so spades I will start with 2D and hope the auction does not get too confusing. If partner bids out his unbalanced shape(4-1-3-5) with 3 d. then I will bid 3s which I hope is a slam try in spades. On hand four I guess partner has forced to game on: x...ATxxx..xx....AJxxx I would think with less you would bid something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted May 27, 2006 Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 On hand four I guess partner has forced to game on: x...ATxxx..xx....AJxxx I would think with less you would bid something else? That's about right Mike. I can't be any better than this because I would have opened, but I also had a 3C support jump shift hand available, so you should expect about as good a hand as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe de Balliol Posted May 27, 2006 Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 1. I'll bid 3♦. More might well be right, but I'm happy enough defending 3M. Could partner's bid be lead-directional on AKQx? 2. I want to pull trumps and finesse against the diamond ten. Avoid opening the round suits if possible. 3. 3♠. Too good for 4♦, not quite good enough to bid 4♦ and then take another action. And I have a fit or two or three for partner, so I'll mention this. 4. I'll double. Maybe they'll make, but I think most of the time this should be off. 5. Call me a coward, but 2♠. No singletons, no aces ... no real game ambition, particularly as partner may be protecting pretty light. This is annoying, I agree with all of Owen's thoughts except hand 2. I duck a heart immediately. I intend to win the return, ruff a heart, and then play on diamonds. Still forces them to open up suits, but this way I can drop Axx in hearts with someone. Also, my reasoning on hand 3 is slightly different. I don't mind mis-stating my strength since I intend to take control of this auction, I merely prefer to show my spades and see if partner has a good or bad hand in light of that. And I don't know whether I pass originally on hand 5 as I don't know what defence we play to 1N. But I'm probably passing anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 1. 3D. I have a reason to bid too. 2. Play on diamonds. Too early to formulate a plan yet. 3. 3S. I've seen this auction before :D 4. Double. I expect to cream this. 5. 2N but I really should just bash 4S and not give any clues to the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted May 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 5. Call me a coward, but 2♠. No singletons, no aces ... no real game ambition, particularly as partner may be protecting pretty light. This is annoying, I agree with all of Owen's thoughts except hand 2. (...) And I don't know whether I pass originally on hand 5 as I don't know what defence we play to 1N. But I'm probably passing anyway. You could also have bid X=spades + another (either suit can be longer). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 1. 3♦ feels right. Takes up enough room for them to have some difficulty sorting out strain and level. 2. My play is A and another diamond. Not sure of plan at the moment, but LHO probably has something he's trying to protect for the trump lead is not obvious. 3. I'll bid 4♦. This gets across my hand more accurately than 3♠ does. If partner bids 4♠, then I have to respect it (it's MPs). But if partner bids 4♥ (either as last train or as a cue), then I have an easy follow up of 5♣. 4. Double. Wdp. 5. 3♦ if it's a FJ. (and given I've passed maybe it is?) Otherwise 2NT. By the way, what's the range of the NT. It does make a difference as to what I expect from partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted May 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 5. 3♦ if it's a FJ. (and given I've passed maybe it is?) Otherwise 2NT. By the way, what's the range of the NT. It does make a difference as to what I expect from partner. 15-17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Hi Arend, 1. 3 Diamond 2. Ace of D and a d 3. 2 D: Stay low and ask.. 4. X 5. Pd knows, that we have about 17-23 HCPs. So he is just fighting for the part score. He passed already, so he will have no 5-5 hand and no opening bid. I just bid 2 Spade, second thought had been a pass, but pds hand may be too light for this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 1. 3D, but I don't mind 2D.2. I guess a diamond towards dummy. I don't really know what to do.... 3. 4D splinter. But I don't understand the methods: how am I supposed to invite in spades? 4. Double. But I'm not so used to these methods: I'm more used to 4C being the same strength as 4H but telling me about the club suit.5. Maybe I'm missing something, because I don't know what strength partner has shown for this call, but it wouldn't occur to me to make a game try. I would either bid 2S if partner can have nothing, or pass and lead a spade if partner should have something. Opposite one of my regular partners I would pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 3. 4D splinter. But I don't understand the methods: how am I supposed to invite in spades? All invites start with 2♣ (artificial, either a drop in diamonds or an invite). We play the XYZ structure posted here by mikeh. 4. Double. But I'm not so used to these methods: I'm more used to 4C being the same strength as 4H but telling me about the club suit. That's what we play, 4C is an honest raise to 4H but with a good side suit in clubs. 5. Maybe I'm missing something, because I don't know what strength partner has shown for this call, but it wouldn't occur to me to make a game try. I would either bid 2S if partner can have nothing, or pass and lead a spade if partner should have something. Opposite one of my regular partners I would pass. You are not missing anything, most other posters are. Partner (=me) won't have nothing at these colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 On #5, I think its very likely that pard has S + H, since the opps didn't land in their heart fit. Is pard moving over our 2S with a 5-5 and 2 aces? I think not, but these hands give us a great play for game. Can 3S be too high? Possibly, but the chances of getting to a good game seem more likely than taking exactly 8 tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Here are some problems from the other side of the table:1.[hv=d=w&v=b&s=s97xxhatxxdj9xxcq]133|100|Scoring: MP(1♣)*-1♦-P-?1♣ was precision, pass by RHO was 0-5.[/hv]1♦ is not a noise, but has a reason to bid. I bid 3♦. Owen's question was on the spot, Han had ♦AKQx. 3♦ was passed out for -100 and a good score (opps have 3♣), but it could obviously have worked very badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 2. [hv=d=s&v=n&n=s87xxxhjdj75c98xx&s=saqjhk7xxda986caq]133|200|Scoring: MPAfter opening 2N, you get to play 3♠.You get a spade lead to the king and ace.Plan the play.[/hv] I tried an immediate heart from hand. I was hoping for the club finesse and a dummy reversal with 3 hearts ruff (or ruffing out the A), but it was off. I escaped for -1 after heart to J and Q, spade, heart ruff, club finesse losing, spade, losing diamond finesse to the 10, because diamonds were 3-3 and the clubs blocked.Still dunno what's best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 3.[hv=d=n&v=n&s=sa7xxhaqjt95d6ckx]133|100|Scoring: MP1♣-1♥-1♠-?[/hv]1♠ promised an unbalanced hand. Your options are:- 3♥ or 3♠, both forcing showing slam interest- 4♦ splinter- 2♦ artificial game force. Initially starts choice of game search but does not deny slam interest. I bid 3♠ forcing since I thought it too good for 4♦. (My default understanding of a splinter is that it shows about a minimum game force, or very strong.) I was worried though that spade might well not be the best suit to play in; this is the case for many hands where partner doesn't have ♠Q (because we could pitch spades on clubs or hearts if playing in the other suit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 3.[hv=d=n&v=n&s=sa7xxhaqjt95d6ckx]133|100|Scoring: MP1♣-1♥-1♠-?[/hv]1♠ promised an unbalanced hand. Your options are:- 3♥ or 3♠, both forcing showing slam interest- 4♦ splinter- 2♦ artificial game force. Initially starts choice of game search but does not deny slam interest. I bid 3♠ forcing since I thought it too good for 4♦. (My default understanding of a splinter is that it shows about a minimum game force, or very strong.) I was worried though that spade might well not be the best suit to play in; this is the case for many hands where partner doesn't have ♠Q (because we could pitch spades on clubs or hearts if playing in the other suit). I agree that is a concern and why I bid 2d checkback first. This will lead to a more confusing auction but..... I also agree 4d would be a weaker hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 4.[hv=d=n&v=b&s=sak4hk8743d6432c2]133|100|Scoring: MPP-(P)-1♥-(1♠)4♣*-(4♠)-?[/hv]4♣ was fit-showing, forcing, but does not establish a forcing pass. Yeah I doubled and it made. Partner had AKxxx of clubs (and QJxxx in hearts), but LHO was 5=2=5=1 and dummy had ♥A singleton.5♥ is down 1 on a red suit lead. Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 5. After two passes at all red, RHO opens 1N. You pass ♠KQ87 ♥K2 ♦QT532 ♣K7 (agree?) and partner reopens with double=spades and another. What now? (2-level is pass/correct, 2N would ask for 2nd suit and show game interest.) I passed, felt good about it and it worked, but it's really rare one has the chance to try a pass like this, so I am not too confident about it. Here it seemed right with the excellent lead and help for partner's second suit. The ♠K lead didn't work as well as I hoped, as partner's suit was 9xxx, but with his ♣A and ♥AJTxx we still beat it. Spade makes 10 tricks with good guessing, but +200 beats +170 and was worth most of the matchpoints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 4.[hv=d=n&v=b&s=sak4hk8743d6432c2]133|100|Scoring: MPP-(P)-1♥-(1♠)4♣*-(4♠)-?[/hv]4♣ was fit-showing, forcing, but does not establish a forcing pass. Yeah I doubled and it made. Partner had AKxxx of clubs (and QJxxx in hearts), but LHO was 5=2=5=1 and dummy had ♥A singleton.5♥ is down 1 on a red suit lead. Arend I had Q10xxx in hearts, I would certainly have opened with QJxxx. I also thought about opening with x Q10xxx xx AKxxx, that would have worked very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 1. 3♦, gleefully. Take away their potential club partial. Dummy isn't too bad for pard at 3♦. 2. For lack of knowing any better, lead up to the J♦ trying to maybe get a 2nd diamond trick. The lead infers 5-3 hearts on gut feeling. 3. Splinter is all wrong here to me. I have a six card suit - fyi, I play 3♠ here as this hand, the 4-6-x-x G/F in Tangelo. 2♦ is begging for more bidding. Bury them quickly. 4. My exact motions: a calm, fluid reach for the double card, displayed on the table, neatly in order, and after the hand thank partner for finding a bid that helped you. If it makes, then I'll start wondering what the opening or the fit jump or the shape of entire hand is and chalk it up to distribution. 5. I pass and go for broke. +200 looks real good at MPs at a partial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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