What's your call?

[jdonn]

Yeah, you're right. It's not equal level in this case.

 

Dbl + suit = strong if it's a jump over the opening.

 

DPSSIJOO, for short. LOOOOOOL :P

Uh....wouldn't LLC for lowest level conversion have been easier? hehe

[whereagles]

Not sure LLC fits because

 

(1♣) .. dbl .. (pass) .. 1♠

pass .. 2♦

 

isn't diams + hearts, but diams strong.

[foo]

Dealer: East Vul: N/S Scoring: MP

♠ Kx ♥ AQxx ♦ K ♣ AJxxxx

RHO opens 2♦ in first seat. Just a club game against one of the better pairs. This is the penultimate board and you are in the lead (60%). How to proceed?

I agree w/ Roland that this hand is not good enough to X then bid C's.

 

Give Opener all of the remaining D values: AQJxxx

There's 6HCP for a 1st seat WvsR 2D opening.

Assuming a 5-10 HCP range, the average Weak Two by a disciplined pair will be ~ a Q stronger.

{if the Weak Two in question has a range stronger than 5-10, this hand is no problem.}

 

SA, HK, and CK are likely to be out. GOP rates to have 1 of them and another 50% of the time.

 

SQ, SJ, HJ, and CQ are the "filler HCP" likely to be out. GOP rates to have 2 of these cards.

 

That means our hand is good for 10 tricks ~50% of the time.

{Opener could also have a maximum Weak Two, in which case the 3 level is likely to be the limit of the board.}

 

If We have a H fit, we have a very real chance of missing 4H here.

 

OTOH,

a= if We do not have a H fit, GOP needs significant extras for Us to make 5C.

b= 3N seems like a very long shot, and

c= "The Rabbi", the stiff K, does not rate to be a good holding on offense but is likely to take a trick on defense.

 

...and some say natural weak 2D bids are not effective. Certainly has given us a problem here!

 

3C is the safe alternative that unfortunately has a decent chance of Us missing a game. Especially if we have a H fit.

 

if 3N is =not= To Play and instead shows H+C, =and= you feel like taking the risk, that is another possible alternative.

 

Pick your poison based on things we do not know here in the forums.

[han]

This hand clearly demonstrates the disadvantages of playing ELC here. While equal level conversion often works well when partner makes the cheapest bid and you can correct, it becomes more difficult when partner has extras and jumps, and can be disasterous when the opponents raise and partner has to guess at a high level.

 

Phil is absolutely right that the frequence of these hands is higher, you will be doubling on more hands. The advantage is that overcaller will have a comfortable bid on a larger number of hands, the disadvantage is that any take-out double is less well defined.